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Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

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Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

#521

Why "lobbying" is not treated as corruption? This kind of corporate influence should be illegal.

Lobbying is literally half of what representative democracy is. First, you elect representatives to office. Then, you try to get them to do what you want. The latter is lobbying.

Of course, when money becomes a significant portion of how the second one happens, things can get complicated.

Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

#522

Why "lobbying" is not treated as corruption? This kind of corporate influence should be illegal.

Because freedom, and surveillance capitalism, have different effects depending on which side of the PR apparatus you find yourself on, and the laws that get passed are written by and for the industries and not crabs in the barrel voters who rely on them for income.

Power corrupts.

Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

#523

I know most of this affects only the US, but I'm wondering where this will go in the EU if the Age Verification Tech goes ahead in America. There's been lots of efforts to increase surveillance disguised as protection for kids in the EU and UK. The Swiss implementation of eID may be hint that governments may/will take the responsibility to implement and maintain the tech, but the multiple intrusions and lobbying by P…

I think age verification laws are good in principle - there's a lot of stuff on the internet that people should be protected from. But it's the manner of age verification that is the issue.

The EU has zero knowledge proof age verification systems, e.g. through your bank, which are secure and don't involve sending a copy of your ID and / or face scan to a dodgy US based 3rd party.

Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

#524

It's an important story, and I'm glad it's getting exposure, but this "article" is some really blatant AI slop. Go and read the original Reddit thread by the human being who did the work instead of this lazy regurgitated shit.

What makes you think it's "blatant AI slop"? I mean I agree with reading the source over something that went through a journalistic filter but you didn't even link it.

Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

#525
Even steelmaning the case for age verification, does anyone really think the state is going to re-institute the innocence of childhood by filtering content and services? Of course not. There is no steelman. If you can do age, you can do identity, and the purpose of identity is recourse for authorities against truth and humor.

Doing ID or this fake age verification with anything other than a physical secure element is a dumb regulation that going to create its own regulatory arbitrages and spawn very powerful and profitable black and grey markets. Poor laws create criminal economic opportunity, and digital id is just creating a massive one.

Between Meta being behind a digital id initiative under the pretext of alleged "age verification" and the Debian project leads pivoting to political objectives, it appears gen Z now has a cause to build tech against and fight for. These are dying organizations that cannot innovate and they've attracted a pestilence that is pivoting them to the easier problem of political maneuvering. as it's easier to militate for what nobody wants than to make something anyone actually wants.

The upside is that people get to be hackers again. Tools to cleanse our networks and systems of Meta and other surveillance companies and the influence of these compromised organizations are an OS install and a vibecoding weekend away.

Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

#526
post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't understand why nobody in the comments is freaked out about this. Because it's hopeless? It's been proven time and time again there's nothing the average person can do to fight this sort of thing. It's just better to sit back and watch as everything gets ruined.

Actually it's the opposite. Average people speaking out is how the world gets better. It's when they don't speak out that things are allowed to get worse. You literally live in a Democracy. There's 5.8 billion people on this planet who wish they had the kind of power you have. If you give up your rights without a fight, you don't deserve them.

> You literally live in a Democracy.

I have never once voted for a winner at any level of government and parties are whipped. It's really working for me, eh?

Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

#527

Why "lobbying" is not treated as corruption? This kind of corporate influence should be illegal.

Lobbying is literally half of what representative democracy is. First, you elect representatives to office. Then, you try to get them to do what you want. The latter is lobbying. Of course, when money becomes a significant portion of how the second one happens, things can get complicated.

I’m not so sure. First the representatives are selected to be elected.

A significant portion of both of your suggested halves are “complicated” by money.

Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

#528

I know most of this affects only the US, but I'm wondering where this will go in the EU if the Age Verification Tech goes ahead in America. There's been lots of efforts to increase surveillance disguised as protection for kids in the EU and UK. The Swiss implementation of eID may be hint that governments may/will take the responsibility to implement and maintain the tech, but the multiple intrusions and lobbying by P…

As mentioned in the article, the EU already has a different plan

Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

#529
post #502

> organizations like the Digital Childhood Alliance (DCA)

The Reddit post mentions that DCA does not exist in any official record. It seems to be a ghost organization for the purpose of controlling perceptions.

I think it exists, as an umbrella group. It might only be 3 weeks old. But it seems preoccupied with minors accessing online pharmacies. Very preoccupied with that.

Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

#530

Why "lobbying" is not treated as corruption? This kind of corporate influence should be illegal.

This is probably protected free speech

You have the right to remain silent, but you must assert it verbally.
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