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Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

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Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

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Post by dreadnip »

bradley13 wrote: post #505

The article makes one mistake: praising Europe for having a better approach. Governments here are pushing hard to force ID requirements. Sure, they start by pretending it's "for the children" and they "only want age verification". They also claim that e-IDs will be voluntary. Camel. Nose. Tent. These are the same governments that file criminal charges when you compare lying leader to Pinocchio (Germany). The UK recor…

I quite like the EU approach. It's a decent spec. Most countries already have digital apps to verify identity, like Denmark's MitID (https://www.mitid.dk/en-gb/get-started-with-mitid/). These could be expanded to fully EUDI compliant wallets and deliver encrypted proof-of-age without exposing any other identity.

For example a gambling site could require MitID auth, but only request proof-of-age and nothing else. You can see in the app which information is being requested, like with OAuth.

Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

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Post by OccamsMirror »

XzAeRosho wrote: post #507

I know most of this affects only the US, but I'm wondering where this will go in the EU if the Age Verification Tech goes ahead in America. There's been lots of efforts to increase surveillance disguised as protection for kids in the EU and UK. The Swiss implementation of eID may be hint that governments may/will take the responsibility to implement and maintain the tech, but the multiple intrusions and lobbying by P…

This does not only affect the US. They're ramming this kind of bullshit into law in Australia too. As rapidly as they can.

Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

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Post by jamesnorden »

varispeed wrote: post #512

Why "lobbying" is not treated as corruption? This kind of corporate influence should be illegal.

Technically because citizens are also allowed to lobby, but in practice only corporations get to play, so it becomes "legal bribing".

Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

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Post by Ysx »

TZubiri wrote: post #501

>"Here’s where the lobbying gets surgical. The proposed laws hammer Apple’s App Store and Google Play with compliance requirements but reportedly spare social media platforms—Meta’s core busines Because social media already has the age info exactly? I think an OS and a web platform with accounts are different product categories. Not even sure what an interpretation of the bill that would affect meta would be.

> Because social media already has the age info exactly?

Then it shouldn't be difficult to comply.

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Post by jwr »

XzAeRosho wrote: post #507

I know most of this affects only the US, but I'm wondering where this will go in the EU if the Age Verification Tech goes ahead in America. There's been lots of efforts to increase surveillance disguised as protection for kids in the EU and UK. The Swiss implementation of eID may be hint that governments may/will take the responsibility to implement and maintain the tech, but the multiple intrusions and lobbying by P…

The EU, unfortunately, has shown to be very susceptible to this kind of lobbying in the past. We regularly see legislation that is being rammed and rushed through in spite of vocal opposition. I would be very, very worried. (EU citizen)

Re: Meta Platforms: Lobbying, dark money, and the App Store Accountability Act

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Post by y-curious »

dreadnip wrote: post #511
bradley13 wrote: post #505

The article makes one mistake: praising Europe for having a better approach. Governments here are pushing hard to force ID requirements. Sure, they start by pretending it's "for the children" and they "only want age verification". They also claim that e-IDs will be voluntary. Camel. Nose. Tent. These are the same governments that file criminal charges when you compare lying leader to Pinocchio (Germany). The UK recor…

I quite like the EU approach. It's a decent spec. Most countries already have digital apps to verify identity, like Denmark's MitID ( https://www.mitid.dk/en-gb/get-started-with-mitid/ ). These could be expanded to fully EUDI compliant wallets and deliver encrypted proof-of-age without exposing any other identity. For example a gambling site could require MitID auth, but only request proof-of-age and nothing else. Yo…

I don’t mean to be as aggressive as this sounds but the frogs probably liked the increasingly warm water too until it started boiling. How many steps between MitID and a fork that is used to enforce extreme censorship?
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