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Beyond has dropped “meat” from its name and expanded its high-protein drink line

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Re: Beyond has dropped “meat” from its name and expanded its high-protein drink line

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Post by amelius »

lambda wrote: post #132
Grimblewald wrote: post #11

I always wondered who their demographic was. The core early adopters, the ethical vegans, who actually like the taste of plants are never going to make a lab made ultra processed salt bomb their daily driver (never mind issues surrounding industrial agriculture). Health-conscious folks would take one look at the ingredient list and bail because of the heavy processing and industrial fillers. You've got bodybuilders a…

This is such a weird comment. Why do you think that "ethical vegans" like the "taste of plants" any more than anyone else? The whole point of being an ethical vegan/vegetarian is to not consume animals, not because you don't like the taste. Health conscious folks would definitely choose these over hamburgers. Sure, they're not perfect from a health food point of view, but they're lower in sodium and saturated fat tha…

But soy products contain high amounts of phytoestrogens.

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Post by mikkupikku »

3rodents wrote: post #307
mikkupikku wrote: post #298

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Dog meat is pretty good. (It also amuses me when vegans retreat to xenophobia as their Motte.)

Since when have vegans used dog meat in a xenophobic way? The entire point of the dog meat comparison is to highlight that meat consumption is cultural and that other cultures eat animals we consider to not be food even though they are an animal that has equivalent intelligence to animals we do eat. Dogs are the perfect example, not because of xenophobia, but because they are such a plain example of hypocrisy that ca…

Vegans are constantly using dog meat in a xenophobic way, presenting it as an absurd choice that is meant to demonstrate the supposed depravity of meat eaters, even though it's wholly a cultural preference. Enough of this Motte and Bailey crap.

Of course xenophobia is nothing new to most internet veganists, their whole thing is being intolerant to the culture of billions of people around the world, so a little additional intolerance to a few Asian countries (and a few Swiss people) probably seems like no biggie.

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Post by eeixlk »

iinnPP wrote: post #287
mcdonje wrote: post #278

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You're comparing a burger patty to a burger ingredient. Two different things. Not a reasonable comparison.

A burger can be made from that solitary ingredient though.

soy?

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Post by zvqcMMV6Zcr »

antonymoose wrote: post #38
asdff wrote: post #28

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My vegetarian friends can now go to a restaurant (or better example yet, any event space like sports event or theme park, since having a veggie burger is pretty easy to check a box and satisfy dietary restrictions) and get any of the burger offerings on the menu with a beyond patty. Before that, the vegetarian option of only resort was often much more depressing and unsubstantial.

Reading this somewhat reminds me how the Gluten Free trend led to a lot more options for my friend with celiac. Still, one wonders does “buying a fake burger at the ball park with my friends” translate to actual fandom and further consumption or is it just a a captive consume picking the least-worst option. The impression I’ve gotten is for the latter.

> led to a lot more options for my friend with celiac.

Did it really? I have hear some complaints that before "gluten free" meant it doesn't contain those allergens at all and now it only means "there are no grains on ingredient list". And with amount of cross-contamination in food industry that is nowhere near enough for people with allergy.

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Post by mikkupikku »

eeixlk wrote: post #310
mikkupikku wrote: post #294

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I have made burgers hundreds if not thousands of times and I have never done more than roll ground beef into a ball ans squish it flat. Salt and spices are completely unnecessarily, who am I, Gordon Ramsey? Sliced onion on top of the patty does plenty of work.

You are comparing a prepared product to a raw ingredient. Raw beef is pretty boring which is why every single restaurant add some combination of salt, pepper, mayo, ketchup, mustard, oil, butter, gochujang, etc to make it into food. If you want to convince the world to eat unseasoned beef and onion burgers be my guest but you have a tougher hill to climb than the vegetarians. Eat what makes you happy, but maybe ackno…

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Post by eeixlk »

ap99 wrote: post #295
billynomates wrote: post #247

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Health conscious ethical vegan here. I eat these fairly often. The protein content is fine. I get micronutrients from other sources. I track all my calories and macros, every single day. My diet is perfectly balanced, thanks very much. Something is only unhealthy or healthy in light of everything else you eat. It's reductive to say otherwise.

I'm probably similar to you re: diet, but... If I eat perfectly clean for 90% of my diet and then I consume poison for the remaining 10%, that's still doing some damage. You can, however, be happy with the fact that 10% is better than 50%.

Pea protein, avocado oil, brown rice protein and red lentil protein is poison now?

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Post by mhl47 »

amelius wrote: post #311
lambda wrote: post #132

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This is such a weird comment. Why do you think that "ethical vegans" like the "taste of plants" any more than anyone else? The whole point of being an ethical vegan/vegetarian is to not consume animals, not because you don't like the taste. Health conscious folks would definitely choose these over hamburgers. Sure, they're not perfect from a health food point of view, but they're lower in sodium and saturated fat tha…

But soy products contain high amounts of phytoestrogens.

Most beyond products I know don't even contain soy as protein source.

Regardless of what you think about phytooestrogens (which has very little evidence to have negative effects in normal quantities)

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Post by eeixlk »

lithocarpus wrote: post #160
lambda wrote: post #132

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This is such a weird comment. Why do you think that "ethical vegans" like the "taste of plants" any more than anyone else? The whole point of being an ethical vegan/vegetarian is to not consume animals, not because you don't like the taste. Health conscious folks would definitely choose these over hamburgers. Sure, they're not perfect from a health food point of view, but they're lower in sodium and saturated fat tha…

Beyond Burger ingredients: Yellow Pea Protein, Avocado Oil, Natural Flavors, Brown Rice Protein, Red Lentil Protein, 2% or less of Methylcellulose, Potato Starch, Pea Starch, Potassium Lactate (to preserve freshness), Faba Bean Protein, Apple Extract, Pomegranate Concentrate, Potassium Salt, Spice, Vinegar, Vegetable Juice Color (with Beet). Except for Vinegar, every one of these is an industrially processed/extracte…

Huh.

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Post by lm28469 »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #291
lm28469 wrote: post #276

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> people who are not panicly afraid of "ultra processed" food and generally don't consider food processing to be a sin If you're not you should, colon cancer is becoming a leading cause of death in people under 40... https://www.cancerresearch.org/blog/colorectal-cancer-awaren... https://images.newscientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/0...

Listing "risk factors" without quantifying them is useless waste of readers' time, but even then, "diet" is only one of eight listed, with three others being the obvious ones - alcohol, smoking, and low physical activity/obesity (arguably those should be two separate ones). - The chart you linked only talks about incidence ratio, and is more than adequately explained by improvements in access to tests, quality of tes…

Strange, every single source I can find blame diets and lifestyles, but you might be right and everyone else is wrong, we just "talk more about it"... you have a good source of copium my friend

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Post by Jensson »

flexagoon wrote: post #147
znpy wrote: post #66

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> Isn't that most of it, except for basic grocery ingredients? Only if you live in the us.

I don't. I don't know where you live, but unless it's on a farm, branded foods are obviously not a US-only phenomenon. Anything even remotely processed will be based on proprietary recipes. Regular meat burgers and sausages are just as "proprietary" as Beyond Meat ones, let alone foods like candy bars or snacks. Do you think Snickers bars are not proprietary?

Bread, cheese etc have names that says what it is that is unrelated to brand. That is the normal way for most products, a minority of products in the grocery stores I visit are brand only, most things you can get essentially the same from another brand. Exception would be sodas and candy and such, but that is a tiny fraction of what people buy.

Its like when I go to a pizza place I can get the same pizzas regardless where I go even though they are all independent, the recipe for most things people eat in the world are not secrets, its stuff anyone can make and sell.

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