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I’ve never had an issue with Starlink when it’s cloudy, or rainy for that matter. They even advertise this. Mini is different this way?
My Mini is fine unless it's a large rainstorm, +1 anecdata
Starlink Mini as a failover
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Re: Starlink Mini as a failover
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Elon is publicly terrible, on the Epstein list and supports the far right. It's the easiest non support of my life, I don't use Twitter, don't have a Tesla, don't use grok.
Elon Musk is far from the nicest person in the world and there are many fair reasons to dislike him but he wasn't in "the Epstein list" (whatever that is), he was pictured with a number of other tech CEOs at a dinner with Epstein, who was a wealthy financier.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/02/28/elon-mu...
Re: Starlink Mini as a failover
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The issue is that mobile is easily overloaded if those around you are also failing over onto it. There are only so many channels available per sector. In my experience, when one of the two incumbent carriers in my area goes down, mobile is immediately useless as a backup.
Does Starlink have the bandwidth to avoid the same failure mode, or is it just that few people are using it for that purpose yet?
I would wager that today’s Starlink is better able to cope during a fixed line outage in an area simply because they at least have already provisioned capacity for the subscribers in that area, whereas mobile operators operate closer to capacity limits at all times and do not have the ability to scale when everyone is tethering suddenly.
Re: Starlink Mini as a failover
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> I don't understand this mentality. I think it's pretty easy to understand. You have a service you want, but subscribing to it is a clear and direct way to financially support the advancement of fascist, extremist political groups and regimes pushing alarmingly racist and xenophobic policies not only in the US but also across the world. Does your convenience justify a totalitarian shift? I don't think so. Do you thi…
It's going to shift anyway. Wisdom is preparing for the shift using any legal means neccesary. Morals are a mostly internal issue anyway, not based on solely external actions. You know the whole stealing bread to feed hungry children idea. What you are doing we teach our kids to be virtue signaling. Nobody is saying or at least I am not assuming you support Musk if you have Starlink. I simply think you have need for…
Not it's not. Most people don't want to be a Nazi. We defeated it once, we'll do so again. This time a bit earlier on I hope.
> Wisdom is preparing for the shift using any legal means neccesary.
Wisdom is knowing that people like you have always been there. There always have been nihilist you wouldn't trust with your kids. And that's okay. They'll just be lonely.
> Morals are a mostly internal issue anyway, not based on solely external actions. You know the whole stealing bread to feed hungry children idea.
People don't steal bread for many reasons. A big one is they want to keep a system alive that provides for them. As soon as that stops, because people like you stop caring, or because they don't have the means, their reasons for not stealing are reduced to "I don't want be caught". Again, I wouldn't trust someone who doesn't understand that.
> What you are doing we teach our kids to be virtue signaling. Nobody is saying or at least I am not assuming you support Musk if you have Starlink. I simply think you have need for sattelite internet.
By uttering a blanket "Everything is virtue signalling" you actually shout "I don't understand empathy" and you're effectively signalling "I can't be trusted" to anyone who wants to hear it. And that's okay. People will just not trust someone without empathy and move on.
> Just like I don't automatically assume your reason for eating meat (if you do) is to show your approval for modern slaughtering practices. Or if you wear clothing... does that mean you support exploitative labour?
No. And that's because slaughterhouses don't publicly advocate for animal cruelty. And clothing brands don't publicly advocate for child labour.
Musk advocates publicly to support fascism. He openly promotes fact-free voices that incite hatred. That's enough for people to stop cheering him on. If you don't remember how popular he was at one point, he will.
It's not that complicated. If you truly wanted to know why people hate Musk in particular, you only need one thing: empathy.
> Also FYI nobody really cares about American policies outside the US. We're mostly busy insulating ourselves from the effects we're perceiving.
The US is making it hard to avoid.
> More European food cause your food is now weird, more Chinese stuff since you don't manufacture much anymore, less media content cause they all want to teach our kids about more genders we know about.
Now you're rambling.
Re: Starlink Mini as a failover
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Sounds way too high to me, I am paying €8.80/month for unlimited 5G, calls and texting
Where on earth are you living with that kind of price point? Unreal.
US plans just aren't comparable as they've been historically f'd with astronomical monthly payments.
Re: Starlink Mini as a failover
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Does Starlink have the bandwidth to avoid the same failure mode, or is it just that few people are using it for that purpose yet?
Starlink seems to provision capacity by locking your service to one address at a time; presumably, this means they have enough capacity for the customers in each physical area. By contrast, mobile networks have to contend with highly mobile terminals and highly volatile demand. I would wager that today’s Starlink is better able to cope during a fixed line outage in an area simply because they at least have already pr…
Starlink will have the same problem unless it provisions extra capacity for users on standby plans. The plan is so cheap that I can't imagine they're provisioning much.
Re: Starlink Mini as a failover
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Some mobile phone providers check the packet TTL to limit tethering. Network packets commonly have start with default TTL values of 64, 128, or 255. Each hop in the network subtracts 1. When phone connects direct to carrier (cell tower, I assume) the carrier will see TTL of 64. A laptop tethered to a phone introduces a hop so laptop-to-phone TTL is 64, phone-to-carrier TTL is 63. Carriers can then limit bandwidth if…
Thank you for explaining this, I had always wondered how a carrier could tell a device was tethered if a router was not passing on tethered device details.
Re: Starlink Mini as a failover
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TFA specifically calls out not wanting to depend on 4G/5G coverage, which is anything but ubiquitous: > It has the advantage of working pretty much anywhere with a view of the sky so no relying on mobile network coverage. I'm also not sure if $25/month is anything close to the global average for unlimited 4G/5G data (if even available).
I mean it's more to do with the cool factor of using a satellite, not practical concerns. Practically a mobile failover is superior if you have coverage.
Also when there's a fiber cut, it usually takes out everyone since there are frequently shared conduits or poles.
Everyone reverting to mobile usually takes everyone out.
Re: Starlink Mini as a failover
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Sure, but my reply was specific to the parent comment about Unifi though. Most people who buy into the Ubiquiti/UniFi world want to keep within that ecosystem wherever possible, the integration between components is very good, it's just that some bits are vastly more expensive than they should really be. A generic $20 4G dongle won't be as easy to integrate nor report as many shiny metrics as a UniFi component. Right…
>A generic $20 4G dongle won't be as easy to integrate nor report as many shiny metrics as a UniFi component. Neither will Starlink.
Re: Starlink Mini as a failover
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I have a second fiber connection and found out recently that both fibers come along the same route and when a fire took out a utility pole, I lost both connections. I then found out that all providers bar one (there are 5 or 6) come along the same street. So if you are going to go with this option choose carefully your providers!
Five or six! My kingdom for one fiber provider.