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US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#51

Does anyone have any guesses about how most companies would react to this? Will most keep publishing quarterly reports, will most switch to semiannual reports, or will it be a 50/50 split? Or are the major stock exchanges likely to continue mandating quarterly reports?

Most large companies will continue quarterly reporting because institutional investors will not accept anything else. For a company with market cap of $500m spending $1-2m yearly on quarterly audits is non-trivial. For a company that’s $5b and up that’s not much at all.

This is also not a done deal and large pension funds will oppose this hard during the public comment portion of this process.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#52
I hear there's no legislation called "Protecting Unified Monetary Products & Distributing Usury Monetary Profits."

In this new legislation, some stocks will not be associated with any corporations. There will be no reporting requirements. The stock will move as the market dictates.

And people who have more money than you can buy access to trade it seconds faster than you can.

Good luck everyone! I hope the PUMP & DUMP bill works out!

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#53

This is an awesome move. They’re not saying the reports go away—just moving them to every six months. After hating how each company runs on an internal quarterly cycle, I have to welcome it despite how the change originated. Six months is still short from the perspective of perverse incentives, but if you free up one week of charade from execs every 13 weeks, maybe they can focus better. And it’s not just execs, but…

> And it’s not just execs, but the whole corporate machinery that takes 3–6 weeks after quarter end to churn out reports.

Release early, release often.

If you want corporate machinery to run more smoothly with less effort, force it to operate more frequently not less: when TLS certs had 2-3 year lifespans there was all sorts of manual methods that people forgot how to do; then it was maximum one year. We then got free certs from LE (using ACME), but they were 90 days, so that made automation much more necessary.

Now with certs from public CAs having a max time of 47 days soon (not that I'm necessarily a fan) automation is all but a must.

So if you want less onerous effort on corporate reporting, your workflows and processes need to be much more automated: that's one of the reason why computers were invented after-all, to make computations faster.

And one way to force automation is to insist on more frequent reporting, not less; Barry Ritholtz:

> This is exactly backward: More frequent reporting makes the data less significant. In the real world, human behavior emphasizes what occurs less often—meaning doing something less frequently gives it an even greater significance than something that becomes routine or common.

> That is the difference between a New Year’s Eve celebration and a married couple’s weekly date night.

> Twice-a-year earnings reporting will make the event so momentous, with such focus on it, that any company that misses analysts’ forecasts will find their stock price shellacked. The twice-yearly focus on making the per-share number will become overwhelmingly intense.

* https://www.fa-mag.com/news/reporting-profits-daily-would-en...

Move from quarter / every-3-months to monthly reporting: companies will be forced to automate their "corporate machinery". And each report will be much less 'momentous' because the time between samples will be much less.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#54

This is an awesome move. They’re not saying the reports go away—just moving them to every six months. After hating how each company runs on an internal quarterly cycle, I have to welcome it despite how the change originated. Six months is still short from the perspective of perverse incentives, but if you free up one week of charade from execs every 13 weeks, maybe they can focus better. And it’s not just execs, but…

I have the opposite opinion. More information is always better. Absolutely the reporting requirements are onerous and there already are perverse incentives to chase things quarterly. Reducing reporting requirements is only going to make things worse though. The only solution I can imagine is to instead drop reporting requirements to instant. Make all public companies truly public. Reporting information should to be a…

Or even start with monthly. The problem with quarterly reporting is the internal efforts to "game" the quarter. The more aggressive disclosures are, the less of a shell game people can play to "make the report come out right."

Moving it to bi-yearly does the opposite. CEOs can now do the same amount of gaming with half the effort. Or twice the gaming with the same effort.

Should be obvious who this change is for.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#55
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The norm in other countries is 6 months. That's enough time to get the mid-year numbers to be reviewed by an auditor. I don't think malice of the decision.

At least what I saw, which might be inaccurate, is that in countries with 6 month mandatory reporting, most companies still choose to report quarterly or investors start to get nervous.

Hard to disentangle that from quarterly being the US standard, what with it being the most robust capital markets and nexus of major financial transactions.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#56
post #29

If you want to discourage short-term thinking, make the vesting period longer on executive stock grants. Making companies' performance less transparent just opens up more opportunities for insider trading.

Harder to attract talent though (not saying you’re wrong)

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#57

This is an awesome move. They’re not saying the reports go away—just moving them to every six months. After hating how each company runs on an internal quarterly cycle, I have to welcome it despite how the change originated. Six months is still short from the perspective of perverse incentives, but if you free up one week of charade from execs every 13 weeks, maybe they can focus better. And it’s not just execs, but…

There's also just a mathematical way to look at volatility here, which is that if you look at (say) the average monthly result as a statistic for the reporting period, longer reporting periods have lower variance than shorter reporting periods.

It's something of a diversification benefit - when you're able to smooth over months, as long as they're not all perfectly correlated (your shock just keeps hitting over and over and you can't stop it) - your results will have lower variance once normalized for elapsed time.

What I can't speak to is whether this is a benefit to economic stability. Say an industry is shifting rapidly in a certain direction. Companies less able to adapt would be less quickly "punished" for that lack of adaptation.

The question is whether that adaptation curve is "a company may need extra time and upfront investment in transformation, but can get back on the curve, so giving them grace helps to stabilize jobs and markets..." vs. "a company that falls off the curve will continue to fall behind, so faster reporting incentivizes companies to innovate and not get into an irrecoverable state that destroys value."

And I think this question varies so widely between situations that it's difficult to standardize. Perhaps economists have looked at this more thoughtfully. Either way, this is an incredibly significant change - how so is a much more difficult question.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#58

This idea goes back several years, and Barry Ritholtz had thoughts on it back in 2015: > Back to quarterly earnings. Why do we even require them in the first place? The answer is that thanks to the transparency provided by regularly reported earnings and profits, investors can make informed decisions about which stocks to own or avoid. Owners of public companies have hired managers to run the businesses for them, and…

Imo, this makes much more sense...

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#59
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have the opposite opinion. More information is always better. Absolutely the reporting requirements are onerous and there already are perverse incentives to chase things quarterly. Reducing reporting requirements is only going to make things worse though. The only solution I can imagine is to instead drop reporting requirements to instant. Make all public companies truly public. Reporting information should to be a…

Or even start with monthly. The problem with quarterly reporting is the internal efforts to "game" the quarter. The more aggressive disclosures are, the less of a shell game people can play to "make the report come out right." Moving it to bi-yearly does the opposite. CEOs can now do the same amount of gaming with half the effort. Or twice the gaming with the same effort. Should be obvious who this change is for.

Yes, reporting should be a non event. This move will encourage bad behavior imo

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#60

This is an awesome move. They’re not saying the reports go away—just moving them to every six months. After hating how each company runs on an internal quarterly cycle, I have to welcome it despite how the change originated. Six months is still short from the perspective of perverse incentives, but if you free up one week of charade from execs every 13 weeks, maybe they can focus better. And it’s not just execs, but…

> And it’s not just execs, but the whole corporate machinery that takes 3–6 weeks after quarter end to churn out reports. Release early, release often. If you want corporate machinery to run more smoothly with less effort, force it to operate more frequently not less: when TLS certs had 2-3 year lifespans there was all sorts of manual methods that people forgot how to do; then it was maximum one year. We then got fre…

The problem with reporting often is that the reports must each be audited (which is time-intensive and expensive), and any errors subject the companies to class-action lawsuits (which only ever benefit the lawyers, but that is a separate matter).

I would also prefer more frequent reports, but only if they were less burdensome and risky.

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