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Grace GB10, Vera's predecessor, had a single core performance comparable to M3 so I guess we can expect at least M4 level performance now.
Isn't the GB10 a Mediatek chip and not directly related to the Grace datacenter CPU?
Ahhh, so is this a chip "more optimised" for connecting GPU's to reality ... or are they skipping the GPU step entirely? Are GPU's only for training now?
have you seen this: https://chatjimmy.ai/ It's quite impressive what purpose build inference can/will do once everyone stops trying to become kind of the best model.
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have you seen this: https://chatjimmy.ai/ It's quite impressive what purpose build inference can/will do once everyone stops trying to become kind of the best model.
Wow impressive. What's the story with this?
So does this cut out Intel/x86 from all the massive new datacenter buildouts entirely? They've already lost Apple as a customer and are not competitive in the consumer space. I don't see how they can realistically grow at all with x86.
Even Apple hardware looks inexpensive compared to Nvidia's huge premium. And never mind the order backlog. x86 and Apple already sell CPUs with integrated memory and high bandwidth interconnects. And I bet eventually Intel's beancounter board will wake up and allow engineering to make one, too. But competition is good for the market.
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have you seen this: https://chatjimmy.ai/ It's quite impressive what purpose build inference can/will do once everyone stops trying to become kind of the best model.
Wow impressive. What's the story with this?
Anyone know how this compares to Apple’s M5 chips? Or is that comparison apples to oranges.
Features like hardware FP8 support definitely make it apples-to-oranges.
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Your 9900k at 5ghz does work slower than a Ryzen 9800X3D at 5ghz. A lot slower (1700 single core geekbench vs 3300, and just about any benchmark will tell the same story). Clock speed alone doesn't mean anything.
From the newegg listing: >8 Cores and 16 processing threads, based on AMD "Zen 5" architecture which is the same thread geometry as my 9900K. My main concerns at the time were: 1. More cores for running large workloads on k8s since I had just upgraded to 128G RAM 2. More thread level parallelism for my C++ code Naively I thought that, ceteris paribus and assuming good L1 cache utilization, having more physical cores…
You can research microarchitecture differences if you want, it's a fascinating world, or you can just skip to looking at benchmarks/reviews. Little hard to compare against quite that large of a generation gap, but eg https://gamersnexus.net/cpus/rip-intel-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-c... or https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-linux/2
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Even Apple hardware looks inexpensive compared to Nvidia's huge premium. And never mind the order backlog. x86 and Apple already sell CPUs with integrated memory and high bandwidth interconnects. And I bet eventually Intel's beancounter board will wake up and allow engineering to make one, too. But competition is good for the market.
Even with those advantages, Apple can't even sell datacenter hardware to themselves: https://9to5mac.com/2026/03/02/some-apple-ai-servers-are-rep...
Nah, as so-called "analysts" expected. The no-effort crybabies deriding Apple for being "behind on AI" have turned out to be, shocker of shockers, wrong. Anyone who even put a few minutes of thought into Apple's business realized that it (and its customers) didn't stand to benefit much from "AI."
It's sad that Apple hurried to pander to these clowns, only to be derided further... and to encounter the appropriate apathy from customers, who were and are doing just fine without asinine "AI" gimmicks.
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Features like hardware FP8 support definitely make it apples-to-oranges.
But doesn't the Apple M series NPU support FP8, and as it's a monolithic die (except for the GPU in the M5 Pro and Max) it could be argued it has hardware FP8 support, no?