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Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by twiclo »

itsangaris wrote: post #53

I see people saying this story doesn't belong on HN. genuine question, if this story were about a german national would it be considered as political? is palestinian existence inherently more political than other peoples' existence?

From the guidelines:

What to Submit On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity. Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

If the story was about a German national then yes, I would still say this is political and doesn't gratify my intellectual curiosity.

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by haunter »

itsangaris wrote: post #53

I see people saying this story doesn't belong on HN. genuine question, if this story were about a german national would it be considered as political? is palestinian existence inherently more political than other peoples' existence?

I'm saying this as someone who doesn't really care about this certain topic:

Either we allow _all_ political content or nothing.

The HN guidelines are incredibly grey and handwave-y

>Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

To me HN became to big for its own good since the Covid days. It's like the reddit front page except there are no subs with mods but one big flood (basically /r/all).

If I got to /r/linux, /r/selfhosted/, /r/networking/ or other tech subs I'll probably find what I saw on HN 15 years ago. But less and less here.

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by Sgt_Apone »

kjksf wrote: post #56
Fraterkes wrote: post #43

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I'm a hacker. I find cooking interesting. Stories about cooking belong on HN. Do you now see that it doesn't work like this?

I mean, a simple search reveals hundreds of stories posted about cooking on HN.

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by kjksf »

asdff wrote: post #55
ipv6ipv4 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s an interesting look into HN. Charitably, this is an astroturf that accumulated 200+ upvotes in about 20 minutes, which I suspect is highly irregular for HN. Along, with a very clear concerted effort to quickly downvote anyone pointing out this is isn’t HN. If this is the case, what is HN admin doing about it? Less charitably, HN is not where hackers hang out anymore. The hackers have moved on and HN is now this.

Interesting how this highlights a philosophical conundrum here that I'm not sure I have the answer to that goes beyond just forums. Do people make the community, or do rules make the community? I can envision arguments for both sides.

Does it matter?

If HN gets invaded by people who want to discuss cooking and start submitting and upvoting cooking articles and HN turns into cooking discussion website? And once they get majority, they'll change the rules to make it exclusively about cooking.

It's still people, just different people. People who like cooking vs. people who like technology and startups.

There's no philosophical conundrum.

Do you want HN to be colonized by cooking people or not? That is the question.

I don't.

We need to stand our ground and repel colonizers who want to change the character of HN. Our unity is our strength.

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by Daishiman »

0x3f wrote: post #31
Daishiman wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's naive is to think that this is overplayed when the same events are happening day and day out after Israeli settles continue campaigns of ethnic cleansing in the West Bank. This is just _one_ representative story of dozens that happen every day as reported by many NGOs. This one was merely made viral.

Sorry, I just don't buy the coached words of a 12 year old as categorically truthful. If anything, ethnic cleansing would be a more statistical and thus verifiable claim than the literal anecdote of a child.

Really interesting that out of all the testimonials coming out from Gaza and the West Bank that repeat observable, recorded events over and over again, by people in all sides of the conflict, that you selective choose skepticism about this one as if Hind Rajab didn´t happen.

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by MisterTea »

dijit wrote: post #65
itsangaris wrote: post #53

I see people saying this story doesn't belong on HN. genuine question, if this story were about a german national would it be considered as political? is palestinian existence inherently more political than other peoples' existence?

I'll bite: If for any reason, probably because it's neither technically interesting nor entrepreneurial in nature. US Politics seems to get more of a pass, probably due to Silicon Valley being there (and nearly all the major tech outlets), similarly some China news gets a pass, also largely when it relates to supply chain and Taiwan.

> US Politics seems to get more of a pass,

This goes beyond US politics. The US and Israel do not exist in a bubble. This conflict can and will have big repercussions which will impact our technical and entrepreneurial institutions.

Re: Palestinian boy, 12, describes how Israeli forces killed his family in car

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Post by throw310822 »

dikozaken wrote: post #77

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> it is very unfortunate and we as a society feel bad for this

> Sick pro palys...

Lol. And you as a society don't feel bad for illegally occupying and colonising other people's territory? Why don't you withdraw within your borders?

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