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My Journey to a reliable and enjoyable locally hosted voice assistant (2025)

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Re: My Journey to a reliable and enjoyable locally hosted voice assistant (2025)

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My favorite is when I ask Siri to set a timer and get back "there are no timers running."

My other favorite is when I ask Siri to set a timer on my watch and it does a web search.

My favourite is when I ask siri to stop the alarm(that is currently going off) and it decides to disable my morning wake up alarm but keep the current alarm going off.

Re: My Journey to a reliable and enjoyable locally hosted voice assistant (2025)

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One of my favorite episodes: I set 2 timers for the same thing somehow. I then tried to cancel one of them. >“Siri, cancel the second timer” “You have 2 timers running, would you like me to cancel one of them?” >“Yes” “Yes is an English rock band from the 70s…” >“Siri, please cancel the timer with 2 minutes and 10 seconds on it” “Would you like me to cancel the timer with 2 minutes and 8 seconds on it?” >“Yes” “Yes i…

My favorite is when I ask Siri to set a timer and get back "there are no timers running."

“Siri stop”

“There’s nothing to stop”

> me, suddenly aware of how the AI takeover will happen

Re: My Journey to a reliable and enjoyable locally hosted voice assistant (2025)

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What's been surprising in my experience regarding the wake word is that it recognizes me (adult male) saying the wake word ~95% of the time. However, it only registers the rest of my family (women and children) ~30% of the time.

I have no firsthand knowledge, but I’d strongly bet that the home-assistant effort to donate training data is mostly get adult males, and nearly zero children.

Oh, I'm sure you're right. I've had people in my personal life (non-technical; "AI enthusiasts") laugh at me over concerns about training bias but this is likely a real world example of it.

Re: My Journey to a reliable and enjoyable locally hosted voice assistant (2025)

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If you're less concerned about privacy, I use Gemini 2.5 Flash for this and it's exceptionally good and fast as a HA assistant while being much cheaper than the electricity that would be needed to keep a 3090 awake. The thing that kills this for me (and they even mentioned it) is wake word detection. I have both the HA voice preview and FPH Satellite1 devices, plus have experimented with a few other options like a Ra…

How about a button? I'd prefer to physically press a button on an intercom box than having something churning away constantly processing sound.

Time for a real life Star Trek comm badge

Re: My Journey to a reliable and enjoyable locally hosted voice assistant (2025)

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I've recently purchased a couple of the Home Assistant Voice Preview Edition devices, and they leave a lot to be desired. The wake word detection isn't great, and the audio quality is abysmal (for voice responses, not music). Amazon has ruined their Alexa and Echo devices with ads and annoying nag messages. I'd really like an open alternative, but the basics are lacking right now.

Can those devices (Amazon) be _jail broken_? I was just wondering that this morning while taking a shower.

Youtube is trying to push me to watch a video about jail breaking the Echo Show for a week now. I didn't watch it, but it's probably easy to find.

Re: My Journey to a reliable and enjoyable locally hosted voice assistant (2025)

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I consider each time I need to pull out my phone and "do it myself" to be a failure of my smart home system. If a light cannot be automatically on when I need it (like a motion sensor) or controlled with a dedicated button within arms reach (like a remote on my desk) then the third best option is one that lets me control it without interrupting what I'm doing, moving from where I am, using my hands, or possessing any…

Do you not just turn the light on when you go in a room, and turn it off again when you go out? All the rooms in my flat have switches next to the door

Many homes have a bunch of lights with their own switches, like lamps. Also there are rooms with multiple entrances, like a living room with a bedroom on the other side from the from the front door entrance, which would involve walking to the side of the room with the switch then walking back through a dark room after you turn it off. Being able to just get into bed and say "Alexa, turn off all of the lights" is way more convenient than checking 14 light switches around my home.

Re: My Journey to a reliable and enjoyable locally hosted voice assistant (2025)

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I've recently purchased a couple of the Home Assistant Voice Preview Edition devices, and they leave a lot to be desired. The wake word detection isn't great, and the audio quality is abysmal (for voice responses, not music). Amazon has ruined their Alexa and Echo devices with ads and annoying nag messages. I'd really like an open alternative, but the basics are lacking right now.

Can those devices (Amazon) be _jail broken_? I was just wondering that this morning while taking a shower.

Generally no. Big tech companies have gotten good at locking down devices to the boot loader. Some of the signing keys for certain OTA versions have leaked, but you can’t rely on that.

Some of the devices contain browsers, and people have set up hacky ways to turn them into thin clients through that, but it’s not particularly reliable IME.

I heard some Chinese brands which made similar hardware for Chinese consumers don’t lock their devices down, letting you flash an open install of Android on them, but I haven’t seen anyone try that IRL.

Re: My Journey to a reliable and enjoyable locally hosted voice assistant (2025)

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How about a button? I'd prefer to physically press a button on an intercom box than having something churning away constantly processing sound.

The pebble index seems like the optimal form for this. https://repebble.com/index Could be pressed even if your hands were busy.

If you want to relax some constraints, I made something similar for $10: https://www.stavros.io/posts/i-made-a-voice-note-taker/

Re: My Journey to a reliable and enjoyable locally hosted voice assistant (2025)

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I have no firsthand knowledge, but I’d strongly bet that the home-assistant effort to donate training data is mostly get adult males, and nearly zero children.

Oh, I'm sure you're right. I've had people in my personal life (non-technical; "AI enthusiasts") laugh at me over concerns about training bias but this is likely a real world example of it.

I think you can train your own wake word with microWakeWord but I've never done it.

Re: My Journey to a reliable and enjoyable locally hosted voice assistant (2025)

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Do people like talking to voice assistants? I've used one occasionally (mostly for timers when I'm cooking), but most of the time it would be faster for me to just do it myself, and feels much less awkward than talking to empty air, asking it to do things for me. It might be because I just really don't like making more noise than I have to (Yes, I appreciate that some people may be disabled in such a way that it make…

I would, if they worked even 90%.

I mostly set timers because it’s one of the few things that always works.

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