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Re: US Job Market Visualizer

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Post by zer00eyz »

observationist wrote: post #22

It's kinda cool to see a whole lot of otherwise intelligent people who are so dogmatically and ideologically opposed to anything AI that they're going to willfully dismiss anything that AI produces regardless of utility. It's not great for them, but it's a definite advantage for people who are already in the mindset of distinguishing and discriminating information and sources on merit, instead of running an "AI bad"…

> definite advantage for people who are already in the mindset of distinguishing and discriminating information and sources on merit

This cuts both ways...

> there's a whole shit ton of work people do that won't be meaningful or economically relevant in the very near term

What work do you think AI is going to replace? There are whole categories of people who are going to drown in the hubris of "AI being able to do the job" when it cant.

The moment one stops pretending that its going to be AI, that were getting AGI and views it as another tool the perspective changes. Strip away the hype and there is a LOT there... The walls of the garden are gonna get ripped down (Agents force the web open, and create security issues). They end lots of dark patterns, you cant make your crappy service hard to cancel... because an agent is more persistent to that. One size fits all software is going to face a reckoning (how many things are jammed into sales force sideways... that dont have to be). These things are existential threats to how our industry is TODAY, and no one seems to be talking about the impact to existing business models when the overhead of building software gets cut in half (and how it leads to more software not less).

Re: US Job Market Visualizer

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Post by emp17344 »

observationist wrote: post #22

It's kinda cool to see a whole lot of otherwise intelligent people who are so dogmatically and ideologically opposed to anything AI that they're going to willfully dismiss anything that AI produces regardless of utility. It's not great for them, but it's a definite advantage for people who are already in the mindset of distinguishing and discriminating information and sources on merit, instead of running an "AI bad"…

Wishful thinking. AI is useful, but it’s far more niche than militantly pro-AI people like you want to believe. It’s a useful tool, nothing more.

Re: US Job Market Visualizer

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Post by crystal_revenge »

vvoyer wrote: post #23

I wish there would be a color blind friendly version of this. I have deuteranopia and can’t distinguish red from green in the page.

I'm colorblind as well and what's fascinating to me is that this is the second AI created chart in a week I've seen that I can't read. Surprisingly I've found such agressively colorblind-unfriendly charts to be far less common when created by humans.

Re: US Job Market Visualizer

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Post by 9rx »

marcosdumay wrote: post #42
observationist wrote: post #22

It's kinda cool to see a whole lot of otherwise intelligent people who are so dogmatically and ideologically opposed to anything AI that they're going to willfully dismiss anything that AI produces regardless of utility. It's not great for them, but it's a definite advantage for people who are already in the mindset of distinguishing and discriminating information and sources on merit, instead of running an "AI bad"…

The best predictor I can find of a segment being green in median wage is if it's red in digital AI exposure. So... What exactly are you talking about?

He is talking about the same thing as you, no? As you point out, the more AI exposure (red), the more likely to have higher wages (green). Which suggests that those who are embracing AI are those who are thriving the most. Same as what he suggested.

Re: US Job Market Visualizer

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Post by jvanderbot »

gtr wrote: post #75
dwroberts wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> AI has already won. It's taking over. It might be a year or two, or five, or ten, but AI isn't slowing down, nobody is going to pause, and there's a whole shit ton of work people do that won't be meaningful or economically relevant in the very near term Maybe it was linked from a comment somewhere on HN but just today I saw a post saying “Microwaves are the future of all food: if you don’t think so, you better get…

I know it's not the point of the comment but it's a bit of a flawed analogy. Microwaves have wone to a large extent, such that people without them are a bit of an oddity, and cooking with an oven is more of a special occasion thing than the default cooking method that it was before.

They won at automating a task and becoming indispensable in the larger ecosystem of related tasks.

Re: US Job Market Visualizer

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Post by c0d3rPrimate »

treyfitty wrote: post #4

Data is coming from BLS. Their data lags the true state of affairs, and their growth projections are never reliable. Remember when they touted from 2000-2010 that Actuaries are the hottest growing field with the best forward looking outlook? BLS forward looking guidance means nothing when technology revolutionizes the nature of work.

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Re: US Job Market Visualizer

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Post by alexyz12 »

ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #38
observationist wrote: post #22

It's kinda cool to see a whole lot of otherwise intelligent people who are so dogmatically and ideologically opposed to anything AI that they're going to willfully dismiss anything that AI produces regardless of utility. It's not great for them, but it's a definite advantage for people who are already in the mindset of distinguishing and discriminating information and sources on merit, instead of running an "AI bad"…

The raw anti Ai hate for anything that even mentions it makes me think of the early days of the internet where it was considered just a fad.

skepticism is so shamed around here.

just because it was wrong once doesn't mean its never wrong. And was it really that wrong? The internet is great but would it be the worst thing in the world if we didn't live our lives around it?

Re: US Job Market Visualizer

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Post by doom2 »

bcrosby95 wrote: post #49
ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The raw anti Ai hate for anything that even mentions it makes me think of the early days of the internet where it was considered just a fad.

In the early days of the internet, there were roughly 3 categories of views I remember: 1. Brick and mortar is dead. 2. The internet will die. 3. What is the business model? (this one still seems to exist to this day to some extent, lol) Reality fell between 1 and 2.

If dead Internet theory is coming or is already here, then reality is 1 and 2
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