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MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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Can someone explain why Palantir are seen as such a threat? My understanding is their product is a PowerBI++ and they don't host any user data themselves. Are people scared of backdoors?

The United States is no longer a reliable ally.

That is the reality that the world is having to adapt to. Even when Trump is gone, it will take a long time to rebuild that trust.

Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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Can anyone familiar with the technology help disillusion naive people like me as to why on earth palantir needs to exist? It feels like a big pile of nothing. But tbf that's how I feel about Salesforce and Jira too. Big fat database schemas with big fat CRUD atop and layers of snazzy sparklines to make PMs and clients feel nurtured and fuzzy that they've done something material.

Sometime back, someone described in a way that was interesting to read. So, I bookmarked it https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44896367 Reproducing it verbatim; “Palantir is a tech platform that consumes data from their clients in return for providing high level data-driven insights. They assign FDEs (or consultants) to really learn the details of a customers data. Foundry allows them to get single pane view of the…

So they are data brokers with data analysis combined.

Why don't we ban data brokers in the first place?

Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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TIL that the head of Palantir's UK arm is the grandson of Sir Oswald Mosley, founder and leader of the British Union of Fascists in the 1930s.

Sins of the father are not sins of the (grand)son.

Given the history of his family, one would expect them to avoid risqué associations and activities. I think it deserves some scrutiny.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So is it your stated position that the reason the US has decided to go to war with Iran is because of Saudi Arabia and the UAE?

Nope. And that is quite a leap in logic. The larger Gulf States are aligned with the US in striking Iran. And we have an incentive also to prevent another nuclear breakout from happening. Edit: can't reply > I do note that a similar reason was given for North Korea which did end up rather peacefully acquiring nuclear weapons Because we were in Iraq and Afghanistan when North Korea's nuclear breakout happened in the e…

I was hoping to hear the case made as to why Israel was not the primary reason but instead you seem to have chosen to elide it altogether. It seems to be a conspicuous omission especially when both the US and Israeli admin have repeatedly made the case that Israel was the primary reason.

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It is a complete no-brainer that Thiel and his minions shouldn't be let anywhere near anything health or security related.

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Trust must be earned. Thiel has earned none of that.

Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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It is a complete no-brainer that Thiel and his minions shouldn't be let anywhere near anything health or security related.

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gestures broadly

In fact, I would say the burden of proof is largely on those who would say that Palantir and Thiel can be trusted despite all of their actions and rhetoric.

Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometime back, someone described in a way that was interesting to read. So, I bookmarked it https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44896367 Reproducing it verbatim; “Palantir is a tech platform that consumes data from their clients in return for providing high level data-driven insights. They assign FDEs (or consultants) to really learn the details of a customers data. Foundry allows them to get single pane view of the…

So they are data brokers with data analysis combined. Why don't we ban data brokers in the first place?

https://www.palantir.com/palantir-is-still-not-a-data-compan...

> Contrary to some media reports, we are not a surveillance company. We do not sell personal data of any kind. We don’t provide data-mining as a service.

Re: MoD sources warn Palantir role at heart of government is threat to UK security

#120

Can anyone familiar with the technology help disillusion naive people like me as to why on earth palantir needs to exist? It feels like a big pile of nothing. But tbf that's how I feel about Salesforce and Jira too. Big fat database schemas with big fat CRUD atop and layers of snazzy sparklines to make PMs and clients feel nurtured and fuzzy that they've done something material.

Sometime back, someone described in a way that was interesting to read. So, I bookmarked it https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44896367 Reproducing it verbatim; “Palantir is a tech platform that consumes data from their clients in return for providing high level data-driven insights. They assign FDEs (or consultants) to really learn the details of a customers data. Foundry allows them to get single pane view of the…

They’re also missing the tidbit that, like any other consultancy, they provide a means for laundering a conclusion that middle management has already come to, confirmation bias be damned. Unsurprising that they’re also useful for parallel construction for LEOs.
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