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'Pokémon Go' players unknowingly trained delivery robots with 30B images
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#32Big corporations have found the way to make us work for free in their own terms. The balance of power between the working class and capital is totally broken. And for me it is not just the lack of transparency. It is the power balance. I should not need to work for free, give my data, and god knows what to play a game. I should not be living knowing that I am being exploited at each interaction with software. Transpa…
> I should not need to work for free, give my data, and god knows what to play a game. The game is free, with doing so being the price. If you don't like that price, you can always pay $80 for a traditional Pokemon game. As such, I don't get the handwringing. There is no such thing as a free lunch and never will be.
Is there an $80 Pokémon game where walking outside is a core mechanic and that facilitates interaction with a huge network of users?
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#33I think that only the author of this post didn't know that. Everybody know that Niantic is a big data company.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I should not need to work for free, give my data, and god knows what to play a game. The game is free, with doing so being the price. If you don't like that price, you can always pay $80 for a traditional Pokemon game. As such, I don't get the handwringing. There is no such thing as a free lunch and never will be.
Is there an $80 Pokémon game where walking outside is a core mechanic and that facilitates interaction with a huge network of users?
Take a walk while you play your switch
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#35I think that only the author of this post didn't know that. Everybody know that Niantic is a big data company.
Everyone in a very specific bubble
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#36Pizza delivery robot, or a live grenade delivery robot, depending on the country and the dataset buyer.
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#37Despite the lack of transparency, is this so bad? Players are being given a game in exchange for collectively building a database.
It's the lack of transparency that is bad. PokemonGo did not make it clear it was taking (and uploading) pictures. You could argue that "of course it must be for AR", but that isn't clear at all. The camera shows a live image before I take a photo, and I wouldn't expect a photo to be captured and sent if I didn't press the (virtual) shutter. There are probably some cheap phones that do precisely that, and I'd be just…
The article doesn’t say when this collection happens but there is some part of the game the involves photographing specific landmarks which does involve pressing a shutter. I’m guessing that’s where this comes from but would be great to hear from a better source.
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#38Big corporations have found the way to make us work for free in their own terms. The balance of power between the working class and capital is totally broken. And for me it is not just the lack of transparency. It is the power balance. I should not need to work for free, give my data, and god knows what to play a game. I should not be living knowing that I am being exploited at each interaction with software. Transpa…
The americans who believed anti-communist propaganda might have been the dumbest generation in history: they gave up a decent democracy with actual democratic say in how society is run in order to fear the world comfortably from home.
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#39I knew, or strongly assumed, and think it’s a great dynamic.
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#40I like Pokemon Go and play almost every day. I did this scan one time and then stopped. The rewards are not worth the hassle. I don't think many players are doing it. It's just very weird to stand somewhere and scan an object. I also wouldn't say 'unknowingly trained', it's pretty obvious what it does, and I think the game even tells you that they want to understands how the POI looks like in 3D.
Same, I do it once in a great while. Give me a rare candy or rare candy XL per scan and you’ll find me jumping all over the neighborhood!