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Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

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Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

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Prediction markets as a useful tool are predicated on insider information. The punters without edge are the bait incentivizing the insiders. And in the US prediction markets are regulated like commodities which have much more lax insider rules, because again, insider trading is the point.

> insider trading is the point Says who?

disagreeing with this statement is admitting it's gambling and not a market.

Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

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The gambling market is really bringing out the worst of us.

I feel like America is re-learning why gambling was so widely outlawed. It just ruins everything it touches. At least casinos are mostly contained. I'm tired of seeing gambling ads on every sport and hearing the news talk about prediction markets.

Not to mention, they all prey on people. When I was younger, I worked in a gas station, and people would come in regularly and drop everything they had on scratch-offs. And a lot of these people clearly did not have the money to spare. It's gross.

Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

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For starters, no mention of re-write option. The HN headline makes me assume pre-emptive death threats instead of escalation over dialogue to re-write.

"I will kill you if you do not do X" is still a threat to kill you. All the more so when X is a thing the person will obviously not do. Rewriting the story would destroy whatever credibility they have as a journalist, and probably is literally not even possible assuming they work for any kind of reasonable organization (hey boss, I need you to update that story I wrote so a different set of gamblers win). Also, even…

>Honestly kind of crazy that you call such an ultimatum a "rewrite option"

It's crazy for me to use the first person's own words? That's crazy?

Journalists get threats all the time. You just made my point on why it's more nuanced that this author engaged and was offered a chance to re-write.

Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

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I don’t understand how this isn’t an immediate open and shut case for the police, assuming certain facts are verified independently. At the point that you’re making death threats to strangers you should be removed from civil society.

Reporters for The Times of Israel get a lot of death threats. I doubt this was the author's first one.

So it's common and hard to prosecute because the person threatening is most likely in another country.

Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

#185
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The gambling market is really bringing out the worst of us.

B-b-but futarchy and unbiased decisionmaking means well-calibrated markets could be a net good for society!! /hj

The question isn't whether futarchy isn't perfect, it's whether its better than our existing democracy.

Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

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I'm not much of a gambler, but I bet on an MMA match once when I was in Vegas. I was informed that the payouts (or lack thereof) were determined by whatever the judges stated at the end of the night, even if the call was controversial and later invalidated. So this sort of thing does affect other forms of gambling, although obviously on a less significant scale.

Interesting. What would happen if it was found later that the match was thrown on purpose by either the judges or the fighters? This sort of suggests that the best trading strategy would be if you had a guy inside of the censorship bureau who could help you define reality as you want it.

Happening to the NBA gambling leagues now with both players and referees.

Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

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> insider trading is the point Says who?

It's in the name: Prediction market. The point is to predict an outcome, insiders will naturally be better at that than non-insiders. Though I think where things start to get a bit more insidious is when the "insiders" have access not merely to inside information, but the ability to change the outcome. That type of insider trading should be banned IMO because it works against the purpose of prediction markets as a to…

Who cares what they call themselves? They're not prediction markets, they are just gambling on events. The "point" of prediction markets is not an accurate prediction in the same sense that the "point" of sports betting isn't that your bet means the team will win.

Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

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Yeah, but how do you find the person making the threats? Polymarket accounts are more-or-less just a crypto address. Whatsapp accounts are somewhat easier to link to a real identity, but still not hard to at least obscure a bit. The arm of the law struggles to reach across borders, and on the internet, it's quite plausible all those involved are in different jurisdictions.

Polymarket's founder is Shayne Coplan, 27-year old "youngest self-made billionaire" (why do all billionaires seem devoid of ethics?) A sane system would just throw him in jail until his illegal betting market implements KYC.

>(why do all billionaires seem devoid of ethics?)

The type of person at the top of a hierarchical system is always a direct reflection of its play rules. In late-stage internet capitalism you win by being the most unhinged and un-emphatic. Today's young adults grew up on twitter, 4chan, video game gambling and with influencers telling them that the only thing that matters is material wealth and status. This culture has moved more and more into the mainstream in the last decade.

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