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Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

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Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

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Per HN policy, stop editorializing the headlines. Here's the actual headline: > Gamblers trying to win a bet on Polymarket are vowing to kill me if I don’t rewrite an Iran missile story

echo -en 'Gamblers trying to win a bet on Polymarket are vowing to kill me if I don’t rewrite an Iran missile story' | wc -c 107 HN also forces editorializing to less than 81 characters. I too sometimes struggle to editorialize the title to something that fits and ideally does not lose context.

Fair point.

I'd trim the bit about Polymarket to get under the cap.

> Gamblers [...] are vowing to kill me if I don’t rewrite an Iran missile story

You'll lose a little topical/karma sizzle (with no "Polymarket" keyword), but it's higher fidelity.

Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

#172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That original headline is longer than what HN accepts. What editorialized message are you accusing the shorter "Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story" of inserting?

For starters, no mention of re-write option. The HN headline makes me assume pre-emptive death threats instead of escalation over dialogue to re-write.

"I will kill you if you do not do X" is still a threat to kill you. All the more so when X is a thing the person will obviously not do. Rewriting the story would destroy whatever credibility they have as a journalist, and probably is literally not even possible assuming they work for any kind of reasonable organization (hey boss, I need you to update that story I wrote so a different set of gamblers win). Also, even if they did update it, they'd probably start receiving death threats from the gamblers on the other side of the bet they just screwed over.

Honestly kind of crazy that you call such an ultimatum a "rewrite option", as if that diminishes the fact that it's a death threat in any way whatsoever.

Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

#173
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I think the idea behind a prediction market is pretty interesting, especially from an economics dataset point-of-view. And there's probably a lot of fun, harmless things to bet on. eg. "Will Conan lead an extravagent musical number at the Oscars?" But we're in an era of less and less responsible government oversight, so the whole thing naturally gets ruined if there's no guardrails to prevent peoeple without souls or…

The insiders ruin a market like this. Unlike in sports/stocks there are no rules / punishment for insider trading.

Yeah there are all those stupid things like "what color of Gatorade will they pour over players at the end of the game" that are ultimately about some arbitrary decision an individual or small group. Probably a whole sports game is fair to bet on because it involves so many sub-events but people gamble on things that make no sense to be gambling on.

Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

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Yeah, but how do you find the person making the threats? Polymarket accounts are more-or-less just a crypto address. Whatsapp accounts are somewhat easier to link to a real identity, but still not hard to at least obscure a bit. The arm of the law struggles to reach across borders, and on the internet, it's quite plausible all those involved are in different jurisdictions.

Polymarket's founder is Shayne Coplan, 27-year old "youngest self-made billionaire" (why do all billionaires seem devoid of ethics?) A sane system would just throw him in jail until his illegal betting market implements KYC.

> why do all billionaires seem devoid of ethics?

why do all NBA players seem so tall?

Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

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Putting aside this is sort of a knee-jerk reaction, if this was actually implemented you’d just see the role of the CEO change to basically be a highly-paid fall-guy. People in those positions today would vacate them for quieter roles behind the scenes, and corporations would put greater effort forth to hide their decision making processes. I don’t think it would be a better system.

Why would anyone sign up to be the fall guy? Perhaps because the payoff is worth the the punishment. So make the punishment algorithmically outweigh the payoff, for example by seizing everything they were paid to be the fall guy plus jail time. Doesn't seem like a hard problem to solve if politicians were actually interested in holding CEOs and corporations accountable, the problem is the politicians themselves are b…

I believe we should do away with limited liability as a concept. Companies would get lot less investments and lot more scrutiny if every stock holder was criminally held liable as a class for any crimes they commit. Lot of people would simply choose not to invest in such ventures or only select those where they can have sufficient oversight.

Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

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Man the moral degradation is off the charts. Prediction markets are easily the worst things to grace the internet by far and its not even close.

It can look bad, but this is just an aspect of human behavior en masse that we don’t normally get to see. A long time ago there was an incident on a military base. A man had gotten up on a building to commit suicide, and while the officers tried to convince him not to jump, the drafted soldiers gathered underneath and started chanting “jump, jump” because of a rule that said witnessing the suicide of a fellow soldier…

"Suicide is Painless"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0xy-LoDi94

Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

#178

I don’t understand how this isn’t an immediate open and shut case for the police, assuming certain facts are verified independently. At the point that you’re making death threats to strangers you should be removed from civil society.

I agree. This involved should be investigated and prosecuted. Just a pedantic, nit pick: you said "should be removed from civil society" but I think you just mean "removed from society" as in prosecuted and imprisoned. "Civil society" has a specific meaning: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_society

Thanks. I’m not trained as a lawyer so sometimes make these types of mistakes. I’m happy to learn.

Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

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Why do you apparently like a system that lets people bet on atrocities and then take steps to make said atrocities more likely?

So you are saying that if business entity starts a pharma company that creates a drug for some kind of novel disease, but the disease does not currently exist, they will take steps to make an epidemic of it more likely?

Yes, because they would have to. Why start a pharma company for a disease that doesn’t exist? How else would you get people to invest in a company providing something people don’t want unless you have a plan to make them want it?

Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

#180

The gambling market is really bringing out the worst of us.

Years ago I was friend with a guy who played tennis at international levels (say top 1000 players). He regularly received death treats on social networks from people Gambling on him to win/lose (and the opposite happened)

Getting death threats from aggrieved gamblers, MLB players starting to fear for their safety

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nigh...

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