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Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

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Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

#41
post #25

The gambling market is really bringing out the worst of us.

B-b-but futarchy and unbiased decisionmaking means well-calibrated markets could be a net good for society!! /hj

I don't know, man, looks like we are now literally gambling on whether people die today or tomorrow. This is even worse than underground sports gambling.

Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

#42
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you apparently like a system that lets people bet on atrocities and then take steps to make said atrocities more likely?

And you think banning it would 100% work? and where did I say I liked it?

I'm not responding to your gish gallop BS.

Why do you (obviously) think betting markets are good?

Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

#43
post #3

Man the moral degradation is off the charts. Prediction markets are easily the worst things to grace the internet by far and its not even close.

I think the idea behind a prediction market is pretty interesting, especially from an economics dataset point-of-view. And there's probably a lot of fun, harmless things to bet on. eg. "Will Conan lead an extravagent musical number at the Oscars?"

But we're in an era of less and less responsible government oversight, so the whole thing naturally gets ruined if there's no guardrails to prevent peoeple without souls or the accompanying morals from participating in ugly, greedy ways.

Though I'm also likely to adopt the idea that the absenece of competent government is an effect, not a cause, of some societies having had to mortgage their souls.

Edit: I mean, yeah, if you're stuck being fixated on pessimism and greed, of course there's a lot of ways this can be exploited. I just think that in its more pure, good faith form, the idea of letting the market tell you odds of things happening is pretty fascinating. I'm sure there's a whole body of economics on this idea, that it might be a better predictor of events than other models. I had fun betting $5 here and there on video game announcements/awards. (though for me betting is a game, not a financial strategy)

Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

#44
post #3

Man the moral degradation is off the charts. Prediction markets are easily the worst things to grace the internet by far and its not even close.

I’d say that propaganda is much worse and more harmful and it’s not even close. Nowadays like 50% of population believes that covid vaccines are harmful because of bullshit they read on the internet. Prediction market is not even in top 100 harmful things related to internet in my opinion.

Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

#45

I don’t understand how this isn’t an immediate open and shut case for the police, assuming certain facts are verified independently. At the point that you’re making death threats to strangers you should be removed from civil society.

I agree. This involved should be investigated and prosecuted.

Just a pedantic, nit pick: you said "should be removed from civil society" but I think you just mean "removed from society" as in prosecuted and imprisoned.

"Civil society" has a specific meaning: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_society

Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

#46
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Journalists do not normally work like that. That might be how beefs are fought on social media, but of course screenshots are easy to fake anyway.

I don't understand what your point is. What is the reader assumed to do about an article that does not bring any proof? The video of the missile exploding is also easy to fake, but it's an important element behind the reporting.

I'm assuming you've never read a news article before, because news articles routinely contain reported speech without having to provide extra evidence of that speech having taken place.

Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

#47
post #3

Man the moral degradation is off the charts. Prediction markets are easily the worst things to grace the internet by far and its not even close.

It’s not even close to being the worst thing in my opinion. There are people driven into suicide by blackmailing them over social media and people selling murder for hire on the Darknet.

Some death threats are pretty harmless compared to that, assuming that nothing actually happens (which is pretty likely in my opinion).

Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

#48

I don’t understand how this isn’t an immediate open and shut case for the police, assuming certain facts are verified independently. At the point that you’re making death threats to strangers you should be removed from civil society.

Yeah, but how do you find the person making the threats?

Polymarket accounts are more-or-less just a crypto address.

Whatsapp accounts are somewhat easier to link to a real identity, but still not hard to at least obscure a bit.

The arm of the law struggles to reach across borders, and on the internet, it's quite plausible all those involved are in different jurisdictions.

Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

#49

I don’t understand how this isn’t an immediate open and shut case for the police, assuming certain facts are verified independently. At the point that you’re making death threats to strangers you should be removed from civil society.

It’s probably an open and shut case regarding being illegal but prosecution could be hard. How are you going to find the person?

Re: Polymarket gamblers threaten to kill me over Iran missile story

#50

The gambling market is really bringing out the worst of us.

Anything that requires a ton of criminal law, regulation, and enforcement around it should have to meet some kind of standard of societal benefit.

The entertainment value of betting does not meet that standard, in my opinion.

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