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Re: Stop Sloppypasta

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Post by sillyfluke »

GuB-42 wrote: post #175

You can use AI to make a summary of these AI-generated walls of text. We are getting to this weird situation where instead of Alice sending a message to Bob, Alice sends the message to her AI, which sends it to Bob's AI, which then tries to recover Alice's original message. To be fair, I don't think it is an AI problem, more of a quirk of formal communication, the same happen with human secretaries. For example, I wa…

>To be fair, I don't think it is an AI problem, more of a quirk of formal communication, the same happen with human secretaries.

Obviously you're not a golfer. Human sectretaries don't have non-deterministic hallucinations and random critical ommissions in their summaries, which I've witnessed first hand with LLMs. More importantly, if they do you have more deterministic mitigations with them than you do with LLMs, as there are no mitigations with LLMs except praying that a new model in some unspecified future will be magically better with the summaries down the line.

The only way to stay sane when using these tools is to pretend that these things won't ever happen and just go about your business like the rest of the zombie workforce, because no one wants to stop the train and address the issue.

There is a reason why the title of Dr.Strangelove is "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb".

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

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Post by BiraIgnacio »

czhu12 wrote: post #96

I’ve encountered an even more nightmarish version of this recently: ai generated tickets. Basically dumping the output of “write a detailed product spec for a clinical trial data collection pipeline” into a jira ticket and handing it off. Doesn’t match any of our internal product design, adds tons of extraneous features. When I brought this up with said PM they basically responded that these inaccuracies should just…

I ran into a similar case recently, there was a ticket describing what needed to be done in detail. I was written by a human and it was a well written spec. The problem is that it removed some access controls in the system, essentially given some users more access than they should have.

The ticket was given to an LLM, the code written. Luckily the engineer working on it noticed the discrepancy at some point and was able to call it out.

Scrutinizing specs is always needed, no matter what.

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

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Post by MagicMoonlight »

uniq7 wrote: post #34
userbinator wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do I tell my colleagues to stop contributing unverified AI output without creating tension between us? Make them realise they're replacing themselves if they continue down that path. "What value do you have if you're just acting as a pipe to the AI?"

If I tell someone literally "What value do you have if you're just acting as a pipe to the AI?", I'm pretty sure my manager will schedule a quick 1:1 to ask me why I'm telling peers that they have no value.

Yeah. Plus the sloppers tend to be highly ranked

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

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Post by MagicMoonlight »

ares623 wrote: post #23
namnnumbr wrote: post #2

Tired of people at work pasting raw ChatGPT output into chats, I coined the term "sloppypasta" and have written this rant to explain why it's rude and some guidelines for what to do instead sloppypasta: Verbatim LLM output copy-pasted at someone, unread, unrefined, and unrequested. From slop (low-quality AI-generated content) + copypasta (text copied and pasted, often as a meme, without critical thought). It is consi…

I'm glad that the term "slop" really caught on. It's such a succinct way to describe the phenomenon, and at the same time it's so malleable. Sloppypasta, Microslop, Workslop, Ensloppification, etc.

It’s just perfect. You take a bunch of output and you just slop it into git or slop it into teams. It’s the perfect verb/noun combo.

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

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Post by cindyllm »

lesostep wrote: post #170
user142 wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first question should have been "Was this ticket AI-generated?".

Oh, it was! But the guy that generated it insisted that he triple-checked the prose after, and it should be treated as typed by hand I'm pretty sure it would be okay to stop at 5-10 questions, because it was clear he couldn't answer any. But my friend is from a hateful branch, and so she went for humiliation angle of asking for as much clarification as the ticket itself allowed

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Re: Stop Sloppypasta

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Post by jrjeksjd8d »

czhu12 wrote: post #96

I’ve encountered an even more nightmarish version of this recently: ai generated tickets. Basically dumping the output of “write a detailed product spec for a clinical trial data collection pipeline” into a jira ticket and handing it off. Doesn’t match any of our internal product design, adds tons of extraneous features. When I brought this up with said PM they basically responded that these inaccuracies should just…

The manager of my team is like this. He LLMed a design doc and then whenever people have questions he's exasperated that people didn't read the design doc. Bro you didn't write it, why would we read it?

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

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Post by egecant »

czhu12 wrote: post #96

I’ve encountered an even more nightmarish version of this recently: ai generated tickets. Basically dumping the output of “write a detailed product spec for a clinical trial data collection pipeline” into a jira ticket and handing it off. Doesn’t match any of our internal product design, adds tons of extraneous features. When I brought this up with said PM they basically responded that these inaccuracies should just…

This is even worse because you are working with clinical trials, which literally has impact on human lives

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

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Post by ricANNArdo »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #151
namnnumbr wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, I 100% acknowledge the site itself was LLM generated. I'm not a web designer, so I needed a lot of help making a visually appealing site, even if that design language is at this point LLM trope. However, the essay and the guidelines were all human-written!

As an alternative to LLMs, you can just download ready made themes off the internet, or there's a bajillion site creators with premade themes.

Or alternatively: https://motherfuckingwebsite.com/

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

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Post by chuckadams »

AI is new enough that people still get excited about it and use it inappropriately, which is annoying but understandable. Where I draw the line however is the last category: passing off AI slop as one's own thoughts without attribution. It's not only lazy (uh oh), it's a direct insult to the human at the other end, and ought to result in bans from whatever forum was used to communicate it.

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

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Post by unstatusthequo »

Copy/paste it into your CrapBot of choice and respond with even longer sloppy pasta. Just do that every time and make sure it’s longer than their original message. Maybe slam in some Socratic method questions and theory to wander through the response for awhile. Ensure it creates action items only they can perform and make sure the ball is in their court each time. I should make a skill for this.
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