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Starlink Mini as a failover

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Re: Starlink Mini as a failover

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I don't understand this mentality. What makes Musk different than Blackrock for instance? Or Monsanto, or Shell, or any corporation both of us rely on and support, in return for being able to eat, fuel our car, etc. Is it because Musk isn't lobbying behind the corporation but doing it publically? I truly don't understand where ya'll draw the line. I truly don't care what other people do or want, I just look to ensure…

Choosing to stand up for your principles in one instance, doesn't mean you suddenly have to fight all the battles all at once, even those that aren't apparent you (yet). How do you know this person is not choosing principles on other occasions already? IMO doing this is better than doing nothing. You can always choose to pick up more battles later. Other people can fight the other fights. Everyone always choosing self over principles will be worse in the long run

Re: Starlink Mini as a failover

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I guarantee you, you’re giving money to people much worse than him every time you shop, without realizing it.

> I guarantee you, you’re giving money to people much worse than him every time you shop, without realizing it. Your assumption lies on the "without realizing it". If you realize how bad the people are, you can do something about it. The likes of Musk are extremely bad, and have been personally responsible for many, many abhorrent developments in both national and foreign stages. Thus, it's natural that people avoid…

> If you realize how bad the people are, you can do something about it.

The problem is you have no idea what people are invested in what companies. How do you know that when you shop at $friendlySustainableCompany that people like Musk do not have shares there?

Re: Starlink Mini as a failover

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I don't understand this mentality. What makes Musk different than Blackrock for instance? Or Monsanto, or Shell, or any corporation both of us rely on and support, in return for being able to eat, fuel our car, etc. Is it because Musk isn't lobbying behind the corporation but doing it publically? I truly don't understand where ya'll draw the line. I truly don't care what other people do or want, I just look to ensure…

Choosing to stand up for your principles in one instance, doesn't mean you suddenly have to fight all the battles all at once, even those that aren't apparent you (yet). How do you know this person is not choosing principles on other occasions already? IMO doing this is better than doing nothing. You can always choose to pick up more battles later. Other people can fight the other fights. Everyone always choosing sel…

How do you know that the shareholders and directors of the places you shop arent secretly way worse than Musk?

Re: Starlink Mini as a failover

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His politics are less extreme than you probably think. Modern journalism goes for clicks, which means generating outrage.

> His politics are less extreme than you probably think. Just look at the whole DOGE mess. Brush aside anything you believe can be brushed aside due to incompetence. Look at the result. Explain exactly what can possibly lead you to believe that his politics are less extreme than you possibly think. You're talking about the Nazi salute guy, by the way.

Sure, and anyone who thinks that was a Nazi salute fell victim to clickbait.

"My heart goes out to you" with a throwing gesture that ends with your arm outstretched. Of course, only the final position was blasted all over the press.

Re: Starlink Mini as a failover

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post #18

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I guarantee you, you’re giving money to people much worse than him every time you shop, without realizing it.

> I guarantee you, you’re giving money to people much worse than him every time you shop, without realizing it. Your assumption lies on the "without realizing it". If you realize how bad the people are, you can do something about it. The likes of Musk are extremely bad, and have been personally responsible for many, many abhorrent developments in both national and foreign stages. Thus, it's natural that people avoid…

Everything is indirectly tied to musk. A well balanced portfolio has exposure to virtually everything on this planet. You buy nappies, you’re indirectly financing Musk. You post “i really want this” on hn, you’re indirectly financing Musk.

Re: Starlink Mini as a failover

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I don't understand this mentality. What makes Musk different than Blackrock for instance? Or Monsanto, or Shell, or any corporation both of us rely on and support, in return for being able to eat, fuel our car, etc. Is it because Musk isn't lobbying behind the corporation but doing it publically? I truly don't understand where ya'll draw the line. I truly don't care what other people do or want, I just look to ensure…

This passionate apologia of nihilism is not consistent with not caring what other people do or want. If "virtue signalling" elicits such reaction, perhaps it's actually working. Besides, voting with your wallet, an actual tangible action, is not virtue signalling.

Re: Starlink Mini as a failover

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post #56
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand this mentality. What makes Musk different than Blackrock for instance? Or Monsanto, or Shell, or any corporation both of us rely on and support, in return for being able to eat, fuel our car, etc. Is it because Musk isn't lobbying behind the corporation but doing it publically? I truly don't understand where ya'll draw the line. I truly don't care what other people do or want, I just look to ensure…

This passionate apologia of nihilism is not consistent with not caring what other people do or want. If "virtue signalling" elicits such reaction, perhaps it's actually working. Besides, voting with your wallet, an actual tangible action, is not virtue signalling.

How is it nihilism?

If you ever visit Bonaire let me know and I can show you the abundance of life we are stewarding on my land.

It's mostly setting healthy boundaries on what we perceive we can affect. I don't buy American food (except Cocoa Rice Crispies), functionally it's a boycott. Is that the reasoning? No, it just tastes like crap.

Re: Starlink Mini as a failover

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post #53
post #51

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Choosing to stand up for your principles in one instance, doesn't mean you suddenly have to fight all the battles all at once, even those that aren't apparent you (yet). How do you know this person is not choosing principles on other occasions already? IMO doing this is better than doing nothing. You can always choose to pick up more battles later. Other people can fight the other fights. Everyone always choosing sel…

How do you know that the shareholders and directors of the places you shop arent secretly way worse than Musk?

I literally don't, so I don't choose to be a moral warrior in that area. I would say healthiness is the main driver there.

There I read the labels and where possible buy local.

Re: Starlink Mini as a failover

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> His politics are less extreme than you probably think. Just look at the whole DOGE mess. Brush aside anything you believe can be brushed aside due to incompetence. Look at the result. Explain exactly what can possibly lead you to believe that his politics are less extreme than you possibly think. You're talking about the Nazi salute guy, by the way.

Sure, and anyone who thinks that was a Nazi salute fell victim to clickbait. "My heart goes out to you" with a throwing gesture that ends with your arm outstretched. Of course, only the final position was blasted all over the press.

> Sure, and anyone who thinks that was a Nazi salute fell victim to clickbait.

You need to be terribly naive to ignore the fact that the guy known for supporting a swath of fascist and far-right groups, to the point the guy even hosts their events, wasn't casually throwing around Nazi salutes.

Re: Starlink Mini as a failover

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Why is not using a product based on cultural or political reasons make you part of a cult?

Because when you derive your values from what others around you think, rather than from first principles, you are indeed in a cult.

Ah, so for you the principal of boycott is fine, but in case of Elon Musk, you strongly believe people just do it because other people are doing it?
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