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Re: Stop Sloppypasta

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Post by TonyStr »

madrox wrote: post #8

I find that I don't have a lot of sympathy for people angry at this type of behavior, even though I share the disdain for someone else's AI output. The people doing this kind of thing are not the kind of people to be reading this manifesto. We've been creating bait content for a long time, and humans have never been given the tools to manage this in any sophisticated fashion. The internet was not a bastion of high qu…

Talking about bait, good job getting 42 responses on hacker news! Your opinions are controversial enough to draw out people who need to correct them, yet genuine enough to not be passed off as a troll and downvoted.

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

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Post by efilife »

bagacrap wrote: post #101
uniq7 wrote: post #4

This article's proposal for stopping sloppypasta is to convince the people who does it to stop doing it, but I am more interested on what someone who receives sloppypasta can do. How do I tell my colleagues to stop contributing unverified AI output without creating tension between us? I've never did that so far because I feel like I am either exposing their serious lack of professionalism or, if I wrongly assumed it…

Yeah it's tough. I tend to take the path of just responding with one line to their wall of text. What are they going to do, send a second wall of text?

And what do they usually do?

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

#133

Post by efilife »

namnnumbr wrote: post #26
rrr_oh_man wrote: post #20

It's ironic, because the site has all the hallmarks of an LLM generated website.

Oh, I 100% acknowledge the site itself was LLM generated. I'm not a web designer, so I needed a lot of help making a visually appealing site, even if that design language is at this point LLM trope. However, the essay and the guidelines were all human-written!

It's not difficult to create a visually appealing website. You don't have to be a designer. Many of us here aren't designers and have beautiful sites. Have you tried doing it yourself?

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

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Post by sbinnee »

As a senior engineer, I am getting extremely tired of reviewing AI slops. Today at work I have decided that I just have to build a POC project from scratch. I spent 2 weeks to review the code, to log the process, and to build toy examples to make my argument clear that some (actually most) parts were not working.

The funny thing is that I know my manager got this “working” within a week with Claude. I had to spend 2 weeks with 4 JIRA tasks, many commits for toy examples, and three reports.

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

#135

Post by simianwords »

what wrote: post #83
simianwords wrote: post #14

I've been thinking about this, what if AI runs autonomously and finds things to criticise that are factually incorrect? It is easy to do in social media because the context is global but in enterprises it is a bit harder. Something like "flagged as very likely untrue by AI" is something I would really appreciate. I see many posts and comments throughout the internet that can easily be dispelled by a single LLM prompt…

Why do you think an LLM knows what is fact?

Same way I do. I ask the truthfulness of a fact in ChatGPT and it gives me good answers almost always

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

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Post by IshKebab »

diath wrote: post #110
merrvk wrote: post #108

I had a guy doing this to reply to PR review comments, copying in the comment to the LLM and pasting the response back.

Reminds me of this PR: https://github.com/ocaml/ocaml/pull/14369

This comment is wild:

https://github.com/ocaml/ocaml/pull/14369#issuecomment-35573...

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

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Post by darkwater »

czhu12 wrote: post #96

I’ve encountered an even more nightmarish version of this recently: ai generated tickets. Basically dumping the output of “write a detailed product spec for a clinical trial data collection pipeline” into a jira ticket and handing it off. Doesn’t match any of our internal product design, adds tons of extraneous features. When I brought this up with said PM they basically responded that these inaccuracies should just…

This. In my case I do write from time to time tickets with an LLM but it's always after a long exploratory session with Claude Code, when I go back and forth checking possibilities and gathering data, and then I tell it to create a ticket with the info gathered so far. But even in that case I tend to edit it because I don't like the style or add some useless data that I want to remove.

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

#139

Post by nvardakas »

dminik wrote: post #130
czhu12 wrote: post #96

I’ve encountered an even more nightmarish version of this recently: ai generated tickets. Basically dumping the output of “write a detailed product spec for a clinical trial data collection pipeline” into a jira ticket and handing it off. Doesn’t match any of our internal product design, adds tons of extraneous features. When I brought this up with said PM they basically responded that these inaccuracies should just…

Yes. My Jira tickets used to be almost empty, but all of it was useful info. Now, my Jira tickets are way too long. The amount of useful info has also gone down. Talk about an AI induced productivity increase ...

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Re: Stop Sloppypasta

#140

Post by heavyset_go »

madrox wrote: post #13
valicord wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I do find it interesting that people don't mind AI content, as long it's "their AI." The moment someone thinks it's someone else's AI output, the reaction is visceral. Isn't it obvious? If I'd wanted to see AI response to my question, I'd ask it myself (maybe I already did). If I'm asking humans, I want to see human responses. I eat fast-food sometimes, but if I was served a Big Mac at a sit down restaurant I'd be…

> If I'm asking humans, I want to see human responses I find this fascinating, honestly. It shouldn't matter as long as it addresses your ask, yet it does. I also wish I could filter social media on "it's not X. It's Y" Because it's probably not actually about the content but the sense of connection. People want to feel like they're connecting to people. That they're being worthy of someone's else's time and attentio…

I'm purposely talking to a person and not a chatbot.

So it does not meet the bare minimum of addressing my ask, the premise of the ask hinges on a discussion with a real person.

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