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Re: Stop Sloppypasta

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Post by coldtea »

madrox wrote: post #13
valicord wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I do find it interesting that people don't mind AI content, as long it's "their AI." The moment someone thinks it's someone else's AI output, the reaction is visceral. Isn't it obvious? If I'd wanted to see AI response to my question, I'd ask it myself (maybe I already did). If I'm asking humans, I want to see human responses. I eat fast-food sometimes, but if I was served a Big Mac at a sit down restaurant I'd be…

> If I'm asking humans, I want to see human responses I find this fascinating, honestly. It shouldn't matter as long as it addresses your ask, yet it does. I also wish I could filter social media on "it's not X. It's Y" Because it's probably not actually about the content but the sense of connection. People want to feel like they're connecting to people. That they're being worthy of someone's else's time and attentio…

>I find this fascinating, honestly. It shouldn't matter as long as it addresses your ask, yet it does. I also wish I could filter social media on "it's not X. It's Y". Because it's probably not actually about the content but the sense of connection.

It's also about the content. Generic slop I can get on demand from an LLM myself, vs a novel insight.

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

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Post by coldtea »

YurgenJurgensen wrote: post #82
madrox wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it is reasonable, yes, but I don’t think it’s ever been reasonable to expect reasonableness on the internet. We have a difficult enough time showing each other decency.

Then why even have this discussion in the first place? You weren’t expecting any reasonable responses to it, after all.

Do you only do stuff where you expect the outcome to be good?

Perhaps they did it for the off chance of a good response.

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

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Post by est31 »

czhu12 wrote: post #96

I’ve encountered an even more nightmarish version of this recently: ai generated tickets. Basically dumping the output of “write a detailed product spec for a clinical trial data collection pipeline” into a jira ticket and handing it off. Doesn’t match any of our internal product design, adds tons of extraneous features. When I brought this up with said PM they basically responded that these inaccuracies should just…

AI etiquette is a great term. AI is useful in general but some patterns of AI usage are annoying. Especially if the other side spent 10 seconds on something and expects you to treat it seriously.

Currently it's a bit of a wild west, but eventually we'll need to figure out the correct set of rules of how to use AI.

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

#124

Post by elric »

febusravenga wrote: post #115
artyom wrote: post #102

I find "sloppypasta" extremely useful. Since I've been in charge of people and teams for years, it's a clear signal of who I should get rid of.

In my company, overuse of LLm and sloppy pasta is feature of those that you can't fire. For me it destroyed company as aligned group of people, at C level, it's just bazaar of drones throwing AI slow at each other.

At my current company, people who don't use enough of their token budget get a stern talking-to from manglement ...

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

#125

Post by [deleted] »

namnnumbr wrote: post #33
Terretta wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hits you in the first row of buttons with the classic gen-AI slop "Why It Matters" . So trace* through ninerealmlabs and ahgraber and sure enough: I used AI: - to help build this website. - to help generate examples of sloppypasta based on my original guidance - to proofread and review the human-written copy to provide a critical review - to improve my arguments and ensure clarity. Kudos for being forthright. --- * T…

I talked myself in circles on that "why it matters" heading but ultimately couldn't come up with a better one. "The problem" has similar ai-slop feel, and "the rant" // "the rules" didn't really evoke the feeling I wanted. Happy to take suggestions on this!

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Re: Stop Sloppypasta

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Post by thinkingemote »

namnnumbr wrote: post #26
rrr_oh_man wrote: post #20

It's ironic, because the site has all the hallmarks of an LLM generated website.

Oh, I 100% acknowledge the site itself was LLM generated. I'm not a web designer, so I needed a lot of help making a visually appealing site, even if that design language is at this point LLM trope. However, the essay and the guidelines were all human-written!

by "human-written" do you mean you just used LLM to help the grammar and spelling and formatting and to think up some use cases but its entirely "my own words"?

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

#127

Post by Keyframe »

codemog wrote: post #118
czhu12 wrote: post #96

I’ve encountered an even more nightmarish version of this recently: ai generated tickets. Basically dumping the output of “write a detailed product spec for a clinical trial data collection pipeline” into a jira ticket and handing it off. Doesn’t match any of our internal product design, adds tons of extraneous features. When I brought this up with said PM they basically responded that these inaccuracies should just…

Let me guess, it’s ok if they do it, but if you handed their crappy ticket to Claude and shipped whatever crud came out, you’d be held accountable? ;) Funny how that works out.

I've heard a great thing recently, more or less - If all you're doing is writing prompts, maybe you're not needed anymore. Stay behind the intent, own the output and understand it and then maybe it makes sense. sloppy prompt + c/p doesn't bring value and will be treated as such. As with anything in life, outcome is usually proportional to the effort put in.

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

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Post by slopinthebag »

namnnumbr wrote: post #26
rrr_oh_man wrote: post #20

It's ironic, because the site has all the hallmarks of an LLM generated website.

Oh, I 100% acknowledge the site itself was LLM generated. I'm not a web designer, so I needed a lot of help making a visually appealing site, even if that design language is at this point LLM trope. However, the essay and the guidelines were all human-written!

This entire post is very avant garde. AI slop about how it's rude to share AI slop posted on an AI slopsite. Very well done.

Re: Stop Sloppypasta

#129

Post by [deleted] »

namnnumbr wrote: post #33
Terretta wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hits you in the first row of buttons with the classic gen-AI slop "Why It Matters" . So trace* through ninerealmlabs and ahgraber and sure enough: I used AI: - to help build this website. - to help generate examples of sloppypasta based on my original guidance - to proofread and review the human-written copy to provide a critical review - to improve my arguments and ensure clarity. Kudos for being forthright. --- * T…

I talked myself in circles on that "why it matters" heading but ultimately couldn't come up with a better one. "The problem" has similar ai-slop feel, and "the rant" // "the rules" didn't really evoke the feeling I wanted. Happy to take suggestions on this!

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Re: Stop Sloppypasta

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Post by dminik »

czhu12 wrote: post #96

I’ve encountered an even more nightmarish version of this recently: ai generated tickets. Basically dumping the output of “write a detailed product spec for a clinical trial data collection pipeline” into a jira ticket and handing it off. Doesn’t match any of our internal product design, adds tons of extraneous features. When I brought this up with said PM they basically responded that these inaccuracies should just…

Yes. My Jira tickets used to be almost empty, but all of it was useful info. Now, my Jira tickets are way too long. The amount of useful info has also gone down.

Talk about an AI induced productivity increase ...

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