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Re: Pentagon expands oversight of Stars and Stripes, limits content

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Post by Arubis »

kurthr wrote: post #22
sigmar wrote: post #12

"Defense Department intended to “refocus” the news organization... it “should” republish content created by the Defense Department public affairs offices with a label describing its origin" Article makes it clear that they're banning the publication of wire services with the goal to make this publication more like a DoD PR team and less like a news source.

Wait, they can't even internally remember that they're the DoW (Department of War) and not DoD?

They're not. That's executive fiat. The actual name of the department changes if Congress says it does.

Re: Pentagon expands oversight of Stars and Stripes, limits content

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Post by kjksf »

wat10000 wrote: post #29
shevy-java wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump kind of follows it - he declared his war against Iran over about 10 tims already. The book 1984 was written in 1948 (easy to remember). Kind of interesting to see that it also fits to the lame strategies pursued by Trump. The "flood the zone with shit" is an older copy/paste strategy of the KGB (as explained in the 1980s by Yuri, though he did not compare it to the flood-the-zone part, but it is virtually ident…

Once, when asked about arming teachers in school, Trump gave a brief answer that went, we should, but we shouldn’t, but we should, but we shouldn’t. Four contradictory answers to a binary question in one sentence. The guy doesn’t even lie. He’s a reality TV actor working without a script. He says whatever he thinks will get ratings, and if he’s not sure then he’ll try different things and see what sticks. It will nev…

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Post by wat10000 »

kjksf wrote: post #42
wat10000 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once, when asked about arming teachers in school, Trump gave a brief answer that went, we should, but we shouldn’t, but we should, but we shouldn’t. Four contradictory answers to a binary question in one sentence. The guy doesn’t even lie. He’s a reality TV actor working without a script. He says whatever he thinks will get ratings, and if he’s not sure then he’ll try different things and see what sticks. It will nev…

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Corolla demanded answers to complicated sociological questions. Newsome’s response was weak but I don’t see how that’s deflection. The question doesn’t matter to the topic being discussed. It’s an obvious gotcha question from an interviewer who just wants to make a ruckus. I don’t know why a professional politician can’t handle that, but bad handling of a stupid gotcha question is very different from contradicting yourself four times in ten seconds when asked a straightforward question about your own opinion.

This concept of “TDS” confuses me. Trump is a terrible person and a terrible president. Why wouldn’t I be Deranged about him? Thinking badly of him isn’t a Syndrome, it’s a natural consequence of the fact that he’s awful and he has way too much power over my life.

Re: Pentagon expands oversight of Stars and Stripes, limits content

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Post by SleekoNiko »

> The memo also bars reporters from requesting public records through the Freedom of Information Act in an official capacity and prohibits the organization from publishing “controlled unclassified information.”

If you need any evidence to refute the claim that the Pentagon's plan "affirms the publication’s independence", this is it. Talk is cheap.

Re: Pentagon expands oversight of Stars and Stripes, limits content

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Post by scarecrowbob »

jfengel wrote: post #26
shevy-java wrote: post #20

It seems as if the current administration is among the total Hall of Fame of lowest IQ. At the least they have big hands ... right?

We elected them. A lot of us are vociferously defending them. What does that say about us?

Well, I'll grant you that the folks defending them are certainly making statements worth judging harshly.

I am not sure if I buy the idea that "We" elected them.

I'd be really stoked to know what I personally could have done (or encouraged my cadre / comrades to have done) to prevent this outcome, because I don't recall even being given a choice about who I thought should run against the current regime and I live in a state where I am a political minority (a left anarchist organizing against specific local actions like ICE "enforcement" and flock camera usage, among far less contested actions).

This is an actual question, because I am curious and have read your comments enough to recognize your username in the pile of folks writing thoughtful-ish comments:

is it the case that you identify enough with this government to count yourself among the (presumably judgement-worthy) "we" or is it the case that you count everyone counted by the US government as a citizen as "we"? Or would you state it in some other way? What do you mean when you write "we" in this case?

Re: Pentagon expands oversight of Stars and Stripes, limits content

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Post by Fraterkes »

I'll say something positive here as a european: the amount of diverse places that I'd assume would be broadly culturally aligned with Trump that have shown some form of resistance or pretty vehement disagreement with this administration this last year, suggests to me that there is a degree of widespread (kinda bipartisan) idealism in the US that's pretty unique in the west.

Re: Pentagon expands oversight of Stars and Stripes, limits content

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Post by scarecrowbob »

ivan_gammel wrote: post #28
llm_nerd wrote: post #19

Remember that Hegseth recently celebrated that CNN is being taken over by a friend of the administration who will eagerly parrot their propaganda in the service of keeping the idiocracy controlled. FCC commissioner Carr threatened media licenses for firms that aren't positive enough about the Iran war (or is it a war? Special military operation?) The US is in a bizarre place right now. The actions of this administrat…

> The actions of this administration are positively communist (in the most cynical, fear-mongered notion about communism) I understand from which cultural context this “communist” label comes, but in political science it’s called “authoritarian”. Small but important correction.

Doubly important when we're discussing explicit US propaganda efforts, I'd think, which certainly have cast "capitalism" and "communism" as weird and float-y signifiers.

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Post by genthree »

wat10000 wrote: post #44
kjksf wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Corolla demanded answers to complicated sociological questions. Newsome’s response was weak but I don’t see how that’s deflection. The question doesn’t matter to the topic being discussed. It’s an obvious gotcha question from an interviewer who just wants to make a ruckus. I don’t know why a professional politician can’t handle that, but bad handling of a stupid gotcha question is very different from contradicting yo…

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