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I'm 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion

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I'm 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion

#1
I stumble upon a post from shannoncc called "I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion", and it made me think. I am also (almost) 60, but AI just killed the passion. I remember all the pre-AI days, where I was enjoying coding during the day, the evening, the weekends and the vacations. This is no more, while others have their "passion re-ignited".

I would argue it depends on what you enjoy: the journey or the destination. I have always enjoyed the journey, I think people having a blast nowadays are enjoying the destination. AI gave us more destinations, but less journey. It is not worse or better, just different.

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#4
I'm 42 years old and it has re-ignited mine. I've spent my career troubleshooting and being a generalist, not really interested in writing code outside of for systems and networking usage. It's boring to type out (lots of fun to plan though!) and outdated as soon as it is written.

I've made and continue to make things that I've been thinking about for a while, but the juice was never worth the squeeze. Bluetooth troubleshooting for example -- 5 or 6 different programs will log different parts of the stack independently. I've made an app calling all of these apps, and grouping all of their calls based on mac address' and system time of the calls to correlate and pinpoint the exact issue.

Now I heard the neckbeards crack their knuckles, getting ready to bear down on their split keyboards and start telling me how the program doesn't work because AI made it, it isn't artistic enough for their liking, or whatever the current lie they comfort themselves with is. But it does work, and I've used it already to determine some of my bad devices are really bad.

But there are bugs, you exclaim! Sure, but have you seen human written code?? I've made my career in understanding these systems, programming languages, and people using the systems -- troubleshooting is the fun part and I guess lucky for me is that my favorite part is the thing that will continue to exist.

But what about QA? Humans are better? No. Please guys, stop lying to yourselves. Even if there was a benefit that Humans bring over AI in this arena, that lead is evaporating fast or is already gone. I think a lot of people in our industry take their knowledge and ability to gatekeep by having that knowledge as some sort of a good thing. If that was the only thing you were good at, then maybe it is good that the AI is going to do the thing they excel at and leave those folks to theirs.

It can leave humans to figure out how to maybe be more human? It is funny to type that since I have been on a computer 12h a day since like 1997...but there is a reason why we let calculators crunch large sums, and manufacturing robots have multiple articulating points in their arms making incredible items at insane speeds. I guess there were probably people who like using slide rules and were really good at it, pissed because their job was taken by a device that can do it better and faster. Diddnt the slide rule users take the job from people who did not have a tool like that at first but still had to do the job?

Did THEY complain about that change as well? Regardless, all of these people were left behind if all they are going to do is complain. If you only built one skill in your career, and that is writing code and nothing else, that is not the programs fault.

The journey exists for those who desire to build the knowledge that they lack and use these new incredible tools.

For everyone else, there is Hacker News and an overwhelmingly significant crowd that are ready to talk about the good ole days instead of seeing the opportunities in expanding your talents with software that helps you do your thing better than you have ever dreamed of.

Re: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion

#6
To me I think it just changed the destination. Now the journey is about the domain - experimenting with how ideas fit together. Yes I can type in a few words and have more working code than I did before, but not a product or suite or game or capability or whatever it is I’m building towards.

Re: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion

#7

I'm not sure I understand... why not simply ignore AI and keep coding the way you always have? It's a bit like saying motorboats killed your passion for rowing.

My hypothesis around this and other peoples sentiments who dislike AI while citing similar reasons as the post is not simply that they enjoyed arriving at the destination.

Rather the issue is they believe they are GOOD at the "journey" and getting to the destination and could compare their journey to others. Another take is they could more readily share their journey or help their peers. Some really like that part.

Now who you are comparing to is not other people going through the same journey, so there is less comradery. Others no longer enjoy that same journey so it feels more "lonely" in a way.

Theres nothing stopping someone from still writing their own code for fun by hand, but the element of sharing the journey with others is diminishing.

Re: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion

#8
Hello, I cannot tell if this is true or not, since I have not been able to really test the ability of Claude AI to code.

I am looking for a web API I could use with CURL, and limited "public/testing" API keys. Anyone?

I am very interested in Claude code to test its ability to code assembly (x86_64/RISC-V) and to assist the ports of c++ code to plain and simple C (I read something from HN about this which seems to be promising).

Re: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion

#9
I enjoy the journey too. The journey is building systems, not coding. Coding was always the most tedious and least interesting part of it. Thinking about the system, thinking about its implementation details, iterating and making it better and better. Nothing has changed with AI. My ambition grew with the technology. Now I don't waste time on simple systems. I can get to work doing what I've always thought would be impossible, or take years. I can fail faster than ever and pivot sooner.

It's the best thing to happen to systems engineering.

Re: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion

#10

I'm not sure I understand... why not simply ignore AI and keep coding the way you always have? It's a bit like saying motorboats killed your passion for rowing.

I was like this a few months back. You want to code and solve problems, but the AI can do all that for you. I got over it by moving the problem solving further down the chain. Treat the AI the team you are directing to solve the issue.
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