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Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

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Post by solatic »

The way the post is written, I wonder if the author is working for a company going through a growth spurt and where, through sheer size, everything is becoming more "corporate".

There's a huge difference between having AI clean up a text you send privately to someone you have worked closely with for years, versus a broad spectrum text sent by a VP to hundreds of people or more. The first case is reprehensible, for the reasons the author lays out. But as for the second case, corporate doublespeak has been a meme since long before the advent of AI and it would remain even in some AI-pocalypse. Just because your boss puts out sanitized language in a mass communication, doesn't inherently mean your boss won't still be present and real with you in a more private setting.

Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

#52

Post by lemagedurage »

dexterlagan wrote: post #47

I used to use LLMs to 'clean up' my own writings, and in the end I agree with the author here: it doesn't really help. The reader will have this impression of 'too perfect', and will have a diminished feeling of value, of honesty. I think we would benefit from a standardized way of signaling text and content that is exclusively human. Say, some sort of logo that says 'genuine', 'untouched by the hand of AI'. I'll be…

To me the rhythm of the text makes it clear whether I'm reading something AI generated or not, usually.

Otherwise, not using em dashes, adding some mistakes and writing more like how you think/talk helps :)

Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

#53

Post by lemagedurage »

solatic wrote: post #51

The way the post is written, I wonder if the author is working for a company going through a growth spurt and where, through sheer size, everything is becoming more "corporate". There's a huge difference between having AI clean up a text you send privately to someone you have worked closely with for years, versus a broad spectrum text sent by a VP to hundreds of people or more. The first case is reprehensible, for th…

Yes, the more personal the context, the more the humanity aspect / being relatable matters.

Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

#55

Post by lemagedurage »

charlie0 wrote: post #2

This is starting to become my latest pet peeve, people using Claude to write their messages in Slack. I'm going to just stop communicating via text with these people. It's one thing to have Claude polish a message and another thing for it to write out an entire message.

I have noticed this in GitHub issues too. Where many long paragraphs used to indicate high quality, now it's the opposite.

Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

#56

Post by nvardakas »

pmoati wrote: post #33

I totally agreed with you. I'm French (nobody is perfect ^^), I'm not so fluent in english and I'm dyslexic, that why I often write my message, then I ask to Claude to translate it in english because i'm feeling I will lose the credibility of my message if there is too much mistake... But you're right, so this message is not translated by LLM :D

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Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

#57

Post by HPsquared »

borski wrote: post #31

I find that AI is very useful for getting me past the 'blank page' writing block, but inevitably it writes in ways I would never, and so I end up editing it heavily. But, for me, a boy with ADHD, editing something is infinitely easier than writing it from scratch . I think this is the opposite of how most people tend to use LLMs, and I actually think my way is the "better" way. My issue has never been the act of writ…

Similar for me, I find it's an absolutely amazing "creative unblocker".

It generally has enough "activation energy" to get me over the hump of wherever I've been mentally stuck.

Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

#58

Post by weinzierl »

I feel the same and I experience less pressure when writing because for the first time it seems being a bit sloppy can be advantageous.

The only thing is that my anecdata contradicts it. My AI cleaned up writing seems to fare much better and this seems to be true across all channels. To be clear I do not mean AI generated just AI cleaned, that is spelling, punctuation, grammar mainly, the occasional word order change.

In the end it's about getting the message across first and "get to know me" second and proper and clear expression helps a lot with the first.

Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

#59

Post by EFreethought »

rexpop wrote: post #6

> It robs me of getting to know you. Ugh, you are not entitled to get to know me. There is a threshold between all that I share with the world and the rest of me. Hell, not every person gets the same picture , and that's deliberate and healthy --my customers don't get to know what my proctologist knows. My mother doesn't get to know what my wife knows. You don't get to know all of me, because I don't trust you . This…

> Ugh, you are not entitled to get to know me.

If your comment is at all indicative of how you are in real life, I really don't think you have to worry about people wanting to get to know you.

Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

#60

Post by em-bee »

jay_kyburz wrote: post #3

There are two ways to write an email. One is to keep it short and to the point that so there are obviously no errors, the other is to waffle on and obfuscate the message with an LLM so that the reader's eyes glaze over...or something like that.

"I would have written a shorter letter, but did not have the time."

i can ramble without an LLM, and i suppose you can ask an LLM to keep it short. but both are results of not taking the time to craft an appropriate message.

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