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Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

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Post by santamex »

I havily use llms for internal communication. I receive docen request per day from colleagues asking me very specific stuff by mail or teams about processes, setups, master data, my particular experiences with approaches, for contacts within our big corp or just general knowledge questions and how I would recommend to tackle certain problems: Setting up conditions in sap, where to find certain info or just send them current setups. Also they ask me about strategic advices. I use my personal knowledge base to automatically prepare drafts of the answers based on previous answers to other colleages. Before the llm time I could barely help all of then. I got more productive by x-times. I then digest the emails again back to my knowledge system. People have no problem with receiving obviously llm written answers. But because of the particular domain knowledge they know it can only come from me. Excuse my writing, this did not went though the same system :)

Edit: And now I forgot the most important. When the knowledge the llm retrieved is insufficient to answer colleagues question or the agent skill can not execute the requested task from my colleague, it asks me just for the missing info or skill and with me (the human) in the loop work is done x times faster. Eventually it will replace me and all my colleagues one day. Looking forward to do other stuff then

Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

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Post by em-bee »

sutib wrote: post #38
eterevsky wrote: post #35

I don't often use AI to cleanup my texts, but when I do, I fully own the output. I make a conscious decision whether to leave in every AI suggestion or not. The final text _is_ what I want to say.

The point of the article is it is not what you would've said. Even though you take responsibility for the result, you were never 100% the origin.

and the reason for that is that we passively understand more than we actively use, but when reading something we often can not distinguish our active and passive knowledge of an expression. so when you read a filtered text, it will sound fine because you are familiar with the expressions used, but you don't realize that some of those expressions are not actually in your active vocabulary.

Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

#43

Post by glitchcrab »

borski wrote: post #31

I find that AI is very useful for getting me past the 'blank page' writing block, but inevitably it writes in ways I would never, and so I end up editing it heavily. But, for me, a boy with ADHD, editing something is infinitely easier than writing it from scratch . I think this is the opposite of how most people tend to use LLMs, and I actually think my way is the "better" way. My issue has never been the act of writ…

Yes this is my use-case for it too - it's great to generate a structure which I will keep but I always end up reworking all the actual content so it sounds like me. It is a great way to get past the 'getting started' hurdle though.

Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

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Post by em-bee »

faangguyindia wrote: post #10
stingraycharles wrote: post #5

Yeah, some colleagues started using ChatGPT for internal communication as well. While we don’t like to mandate or prohibit anyone from using any tools, we did need to make it really clear to everyone that this is not productive. Grammarly to make small corrections to external recipients is fine. Using ChatGPT to “polish” your message is not. If you’re not sure about your English abilities, we offer you free English l…

You can take one step ahead and let user write in their own language then you figure out how to make sense of it.

i do that when i don't trust the persons ability to translate to english without error. if they are using a tool to translate to english, then i might as well use that tool myself, with the benefit that i then have the original untranslated message too and can use it to get a second opinion if the translation doesn't make sense. if all i have is the translation then i am stuck with that.

Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

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Post by [deleted] »

borski wrote: post #31

I find that AI is very useful for getting me past the 'blank page' writing block, but inevitably it writes in ways I would never, and so I end up editing it heavily. But, for me, a boy with ADHD, editing something is infinitely easier than writing it from scratch . I think this is the opposite of how most people tend to use LLMs, and I actually think my way is the "better" way. My issue has never been the act of writ…

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Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

anal_reactor wrote: post #39
borski wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Remember, you're always one misunderstood message away from being fired. If this is true, you really want to be fired. That is a horrendous work environment, and you should quit if at all possible. Most workplaces (any certainly any good workplace) will seek to understand, not fire you immediately.

Blessed are those who haven't worked corproate.

I've worked corporate jobs all my life, and I was never one misunderstood message away from being fired. Instead they would've talked to me and, even if they figured it was my fault, they would've given me a warning since it was the first time. No worthwhile employer is firing people for the first offense, corporate or otherwise.

Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

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Post by dexterlagan »

I used to use LLMs to 'clean up' my own writings, and in the end I agree with the author here: it doesn't really help. The reader will have this impression of 'too perfect', and will have a diminished feeling of value, of honesty. I think we would benefit from a standardized way of signaling text and content that is exclusively human. Say, some sort of logo that says 'genuine', 'untouched by the hand of AI'. I'll be thinking about a way to do this.

Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

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Post by Mordisquitos »

pmoati wrote: post #33

I totally agreed with you. I'm French (nobody is perfect ^^), I'm not so fluent in english and I'm dyslexic, that why I often write my message, then I ask to Claude to translate it in english because i'm feeling I will lose the credibility of my message if there is too much mistake... But you're right, so this message is not translated by LLM :D

I'm curious, why would you use an LLM to translate French to English? Why not use a dedicated translator such as DeepL, which will not only save you tokens/energy, but will also be much closer to your personal phrasing?

Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

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Post by vaylian »

pmoati wrote: post #33

I totally agreed with you. I'm French (nobody is perfect ^^), I'm not so fluent in english and I'm dyslexic, that why I often write my message, then I ask to Claude to translate it in english because i'm feeling I will lose the credibility of my message if there is too much mistake... But you're right, so this message is not translated by LLM :D

> I will lose the credibility

There's grammatical mistakes and then there is sloppiness. Only the second makes me disregard someone's comment.

> I will lose the credibility of my message if there is too much mistake...

The correct way to write this is "if there are too many mistakes", because mistakes are countable and plural. And it's fine to make grammatical mistakes if English is not your native language. You can only get better by practising :-)

Re: Allow me to get to know you, mistakes and all

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Post by moondance »

borski wrote: post #31

I find that AI is very useful for getting me past the 'blank page' writing block, but inevitably it writes in ways I would never, and so I end up editing it heavily. But, for me, a boy with ADHD, editing something is infinitely easier than writing it from scratch . I think this is the opposite of how most people tend to use LLMs, and I actually think my way is the "better" way. My issue has never been the act of writ…

I can relate to the inclination, but so many new insights and moments of inspiration are necessarily confined to that painstaking iterative line-by-line process of real writing. When you are simply prompting and editing, you will fill the page (and it might even sound like “you”), but you will not have that delightful experience of encountering something unexpected along the way to filling it.
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