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Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by "human connection"?

It appears a lot of people using OF are using it as a parasocial medium, not strictly for porn. They want to believe they're actually in touch with the performer and part of their lives to some degree.

What does "para-" mean?

Edit: Right, 'beside', 'outside', like in paranormal. Now, are parasocial relationships "human connection"?

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

#32

How is this not fraud, or at least false advertising? If I'm paying money to chat with a specific sex worker how is it even legal to let some random dude in a third world country pretend to be the person I'm supposed to be talking to? I've never personally engaged in these types of systems, but I don't think there's a problem with them as long as they are run honestly. It sounds like Onlyfans is exploiting workers an…

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Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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How is this not fraud, or at least false advertising? If I'm paying money to chat with a specific sex worker how is it even legal to let some random dude in a third world country pretend to be the person I'm supposed to be talking to? I've never personally engaged in these types of systems, but I don't think there's a problem with them as long as they are run honestly. It sounds like Onlyfans is exploiting workers an…

Do we know if onlyfan is already training their own models with their user's content?

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

#34
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

God that's depressing. Even when you _pay_ for human connection you're being fobbed off onto an AI

Bet you had some really deep human connection with that guy chatting to you from the Philippines.

You betray your ignorance of how parasocial OnlyFans and their ilk get. Yes, people get real connection out of it, whether its with who they think they're talking to or not. I think that connecting those people into a chat bot instead of a real human is depressing, and a bad thing for society, but you're welcome to disagree with that

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

#35
post #17

Let me complain about how I'm being exploited at my job while voluntarily choosing said job over literally every other job available to me.

That's how exploitation works: The exploited don't have another choice. That doesn't make doing cruel things to them wrong and (hopefully) illegal. For example, someone could compel people who are starving to do all sorts of horrible things for food, and then say 'well, they chose to do it!'.

Once you make this job illegal, what do you think she does then for a job? By taking this job she has revealed that this is her best option. When you make the job illegal, you're forcing her to take a worse alternative.

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

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post #17

Let me complain about how I'm being exploited at my job while voluntarily choosing said job over literally every other job available to me.

That's how exploitation works: The exploited don't have another choice. That doesn't make doing cruel things to them wrong and (hopefully) illegal. For example, someone could compel people who are starving to do all sorts of horrible things for food, and then say 'well, they chose to do it!'.

This is true, but I also think that the information in the article alone is insufficient to make a judgment.

This salary is over the Philippines minimum wage. It's a legal job like any other.

The people interviewed are not super happy about the content of the job, but none of it seems to be anything more than it being pornography-related.

Nobody's really seeming to cross any lines of illegality as described in the article. This doesn't come close to the kind of conditions faced by Meta's contractors in Africa spying through Meta glasses in private homes.

I would equate this type of job to any type of job that has aspects that some people would never be willing to do.

E.g., I would never be willing to be a window washer. I'm too scared of heights. Same deal with tower construction. But there are plenty of people doing those jobs who don't feel exploited.

The plus side of jobs like this are that you can do this work at home, you can be physically disabled, there's often some level of flexibility of hours, and there's no manual labor.

I'm going to guess that the only scandal here is that the Philippines is 80% Catholic and possibly more conservative than people in the countries where OnlyFans generates its income.

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

#37
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please do enumerate these other jobs that are available to the Filipino currently performing this job for... checks notes ... $2/hour?

Please say what you think the hourly average wage is in the Philippines and how you conclude that this isn't the woman's best option despite her revealed preference that it is.

I don't think you and I are disagreeing here? The article explicitly states that she only took this work because she couldn't find other work, and that she dislikes the work intensely (... but has no better job prospects)

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

#38

How is this not fraud, or at least false advertising? If I'm paying money to chat with a specific sex worker how is it even legal to let some random dude in a third world country pretend to be the person I'm supposed to be talking to? I've never personally engaged in these types of systems, but I don't think there's a problem with them as long as they are run honestly. It sounds like Onlyfans is exploiting workers an…

There is probably some lingo somewhere clarifying that you pay for the "experience" of her and not for her in particular.

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

#39

How is this not fraud, or at least false advertising? If I'm paying money to chat with a specific sex worker how is it even legal to let some random dude in a third world country pretend to be the person I'm supposed to be talking to? I've never personally engaged in these types of systems, but I don't think there's a problem with them as long as they are run honestly. It sounds like Onlyfans is exploiting workers an…

I wonder to what extent the clients care. Either way its still paying for a fantasy.

Re: Life as an OnlyFans 'chatter'

#40
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

God that's depressing. Even when you _pay_ for human connection you're being fobbed off onto an AI

It's going to kill the software industry as we know it! We're literally killing our field by making the devices and internet so repulsive that people are actively unplugging. You can't hear about this online because the bot generated content is filling the gap and the people doing it aren't online to tell you about it. Children are getting addicted to everything because the internet has killed any sense of self-stimu…

There will be some interesting game theory studies in the aftermath.
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