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Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Post by datsci_est_2015 »

0xpgm wrote: post #549
throw_m239339 wrote: post #463

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> Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity. That ship has sailed a long time ago, with the approval of the moderation itself.

Yup, since around 2016 HN and other tech spaces got infested with people who cannot separate their political ideology from technical discussions. When it comes to FOSS they claim that FOSS has always been political to justify the politicization of everything they touch. Things used to be much better when the people adhered to the age-old wisdom "Keep politics and religion out of the office" and carried this attitude…

Being “apolitical” is a luxury of the privileged, especially in turbulent times.

True tests of courage, morals, and ethics are occurring more and more every day now, especially in the tech industry that is so closely intertwined with the regimes across the world who seek to cause great harm to those who do not look like, speak like, or believe in the same things as them.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" - there’s your quote for political apathy.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Post by tibbar »

tokioyoyo wrote: post #432
tibbar wrote: post #286

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I think OpenAI is more of an aesthetic. Very... Apple-like, polished, with an eye towards making really cool stuff. And aesthetics are a type of philosophy. This is less noble than how Anthropic presents themselves but still much more attractive to many than XAI.

The feeling on the street is that Anthropic IS the Apple of the AIs.

Come now, surely Anthropic is a premium Linux distribution.

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Post by givemeethekeys »

jarrettcoggin wrote: post #378
dgxyz wrote: post #353

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Oh I worked at one of them. I found the best thing to do was to ignore the interrupts and carry on until they kick you on the street. Then watch from a safe distance as all the stuff you were holding together shits the bed.

Definitely one approach to the circumstances. I tried some variation of this and it blew up in my face (as I expected ). Towards the end of my time there, a “fixer” was brought in to shore up the team that I was working on. The “fixer” also became my manager when they were brought on. The “fixer” proceeded to fire 70+% of the team over the course of 6-8 months and install a bunch of yes people, in addition to wasting…

In my case at a different firm, I happily gave notice than to put up with the "fixer", who had been hired by the other "fixer", both of which were mostly only good at shitting all over the place and driving most of the technical organization out of the company. I got the feeling that was the whole point, so I resigned instead of waiting for my eventual layoff.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Post by dmarcos »

sigmarule wrote: post #536
dmarcos wrote: post #491

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Your claim is that people that bought the cybertruck at a lower price don’t actually want it?

I believe the claim is that the demand side did not change, the supply side did, as in sales != demand.

Just quoting the above

“An artificial boost is given to stuff nobody wants, but at a lower price can be convinced to buy”

So people spent 60k on a cybertruck that they didn’t want? Is that the claim?

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Post by Auracle »

tptacek wrote: post #529
Auracle wrote: post #524

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What? No you can't. And: it remains perfectly OK to study racial differences in IQ. It's an actively studied topic. In fact, it's studied by at least three major scientific fields (quantitative psychology, behavioral genetics, and molecular genetics). The idea that you can't is a cringe online racist canard borne out of the fact that the studies aren't coming out the way they want them to.

Does it now? Noah Carl would disagree. He was a researcher at Cambridge University that was dismissed after an open letter signed by over 1,400 academics and students accusing him of "racist pseudoscience" for merely arguing that race-IQ research should not be off-limits.

James Flynn (of the Flynn effect) has also publicly stated that grants for research clarifying genetic vs. environmental causes of IQ gaps weren't approved because of university fears of public furor.

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Post by Auracle »

lobf wrote: post #528
Auracle wrote: post #515

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Ok, change it to "what we call race as a proxy for general geographic locations that people's ancestors come from." Which is what we all mean by race, anyways.

But then what are you arguing? Geographic location determines IQ? (An inherently flawed measurement itself)

I'm not arguing anything other than the fact that Wikipedia is biased.

Though I will say it's beyond argument that geographic ancestry has an effect on IQ on a statistical group level (the reasons for this are what's debated), and that IQ is the best measurement of G that we have.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Post by Auracle »

lobf wrote: post #526
Auracle wrote: post #516

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There have been many, many studies that show that "race" is related to IQ. A true, unbiased article would show that as well as any well-founded criticisms of it.

Can you cite them then?

Roth, P. L., Bevier, C. A., Bobko, P., Switzer, F. S., & Tyler, P. (2001). Ethnic group differences in cognitive ability in employment and educational settings: A meta-analysis. Personnel Psychology, 54(2), 297–330.

Rushton, J. P., & Jensen, A. R. (2005). Thirty years of research on race differences in cognitive ability. Psychology, Public Policy, and Law, 11(2), 235–294.

Neisser, U., et al. (1996). Intelligence: Knowns and unknowns. (APA Task Force report). American Psychologist, 51(2), 77–101.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Post by akerl_ »

Auracle wrote: post #565
tptacek wrote: post #529

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What? No you can't. And: it remains perfectly OK to study racial differences in IQ. It's an actively studied topic. In fact, it's studied by at least three major scientific fields (quantitative psychology, behavioral genetics, and molecular genetics). The idea that you can't is a cringe online racist canard borne out of the fact that the studies aren't coming out the way they want them to.

Does it now? Noah Carl would disagree. He was a researcher at Cambridge University that was dismissed after an open letter signed by over 1,400 academics and students accusing him of "racist pseudoscience" for merely arguing that race-IQ research should not be off-limits. James Flynn (of the Flynn effect) has also publicly stated that grants for research clarifying genetic vs. environmental causes of IQ gaps weren't…

https://medium.com/@racescienceopenletter/open-letter-no-to-...

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2019/may/01/cambridge-...

> for merely arguing that race-IQ research should not be off-limits.

Help me connect the dots here.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Post by chairmanwow1 »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #519
chairmanwow1 wrote: post #501

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So you deeply admire a man who threw a temper-tantrum when his giant box designed by a bunch of people with no experience in anything underwater or rescue, much less underwater rescue - and was deemed unusable to rescue people from an underwater cave with passages so small divers had to remove their gear and push it ahead of them? And repeatedly, directly, said the lead rescuer was a pedophile? You deeply admire a ma…

Yes
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