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Human Rights Watch says drone strikes in Haiti have killed nearly 1,250 people

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Re: Human Rights Watch says drone strikes in Haiti have killed nearly 1,250 people

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No, not dozens of Innocents. About 1500, which is a lot more. You should read the comment that you replied to again. You're railing against a fact, not an opinion.

They mean the 5% of 1250 killed by drones

Re: Human Rights Watch says drone strikes in Haiti have killed nearly 1,250 people

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post #67

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No, not dozens of Innocents. About 1500, which is a lot more. You should read the comment that you replied to again. You're railing against a fact, not an opinion.

Dozens of innocents (5% of 1250 = 63) killed "extrajudicially" (i.e., illegally) by the drones that are the subject of the article, and those deaths were dismissed by the rationalization in the comment they replied to.

If you can't handle additional context being brought to the conversation, maybe its best for you to duck out.

Re: Human Rights Watch says drone strikes in Haiti have killed nearly 1,250 people

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The title framing is weird when the report says maybe 5% of the 1250 were civilians, and the same rights group also reports more than 1500 civilians [0] killed over the same period in the horrific and rampant gang violence the government is using this technology to fight against. [0] https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2026/country-chapters/haiti

Since when are drone strikes the legal way to handle criminals. I remember something with trials before you can kill people.

Re: Human Rights Watch says drone strikes in Haiti have killed nearly 1,250 people

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post #73

The title framing is weird when the report says maybe 5% of the 1250 were civilians, and the same rights group also reports more than 1500 civilians [0] killed over the same period in the horrific and rampant gang violence the government is using this technology to fight against. [0] https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2026/country-chapters/haiti

Since when are drone strikes the legal way to handle criminals. I remember something with trials before you can kill people.

That's a luxury you get when your society has reached a certain level of stability.

Re: Human Rights Watch says drone strikes in Haiti have killed nearly 1,250 people

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, not dozens of Innocents. About 1500, which is a lot more. You should read the comment that you replied to again. You're railing against a fact, not an opinion.

They mean the 5% of 1250 killed by drones

We know what he meant, and he's being obtuse. Thinks thousands of deaths due to rampant crime somehow aren't or shouldn't be part of the discussion when the collateral cost of law enforcement efforts are discussed. Very dumb.

Re: Human Rights Watch says drone strikes in Haiti have killed nearly 1,250 people

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post #73

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Since when are drone strikes the legal way to handle criminals. I remember something with trials before you can kill people.

That's a luxury you get when your society has reached a certain level of stability.

Everything is that way.

Another example: Feminism? Only happened with women in the workforce. Women in the workforce? Only when the Industrial Revolution happened and the economy could support the roles. Industrial Revolution? Only happened when farming and trading got good enough that 90% of the population didn’t need to be farmers first. Very few moral enlightenments have ever actually happened absent economic preconditions, or would not be reversed if the conditions degraded.

Re: Human Rights Watch says drone strikes in Haiti have killed nearly 1,250 people

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post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since when are drone strikes the legal way to handle criminals. I remember something with trials before you can kill people.

That's a luxury you get when your society has reached a certain level of stability.

People's rights are not luxuries, but the purpose of government: "... to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men ...".

They are a necessity to achieve freedom and stability.

Re: Human Rights Watch says drone strikes in Haiti have killed nearly 1,250 people

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post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dozens of innocents (5% of 1250 = 63) killed "extrajudicially" (i.e., illegally) by the drones that are the subject of the article, and those deaths were dismissed by the rationalization in the comment they replied to.

If you can't handle additional context being brought to the conversation, maybe its best for you to duck out.

So much projection here from RWers, as usual. I will bow out of this, due to the massive levels of intellectual dishonesty and bad faith.

Re: Human Rights Watch says drone strikes in Haiti have killed nearly 1,250 people

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, not dozens of Innocents. About 1500, which is a lot more. You should read the comment that you replied to again. You're railing against a fact, not an opinion.

They mean the 5% of 1250 killed by drones

This is apparently a RW projection zone. You won't get anywhere with these people.
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