usually the people who ask for the most direct advice are also the ones who so vehemently disagree with it when it's something they don't like
I beg you to follow Crocker's Rules, even if you will be rude to me
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Re: I beg you to follow Crocker's Rules, even if you will be rude to me
#12This is a recipe for disaster. Please don’t follow Crocker’s Rules; just get better at communicating than the person who wrote this.
Your comment declares your opinion without explanation, and so lacks substance and is unpersuasive as written. More information would help HN readers evaluate your claims fairly rather than dismiss you. In specific, I’d love to hear your views on these questions so I can give you serious consideration:
> This is a recipe for disaster.
What about Crocker’s Rules, and/or this post’s advice to follow them, do you consider a recipe for disaster?
> Please don’t follow Crocker’s Rules;
What outcome are you hoping will result from granting your request? Do you have personal experiences with Crocker’s Rules underpinning this advice? Do you tend to experience social discomfort typically, atypically, or infrequently / never?
> just get better at communicating than the person who wrote this
Other than the presumed adherence to Crocker’s Rules in writing this, which is addressed by the questions above, do you have other criticisms of their writing to present? What communication ideals do you consider as better models than Crocker’s Rules? Do you consider there to exist appropriate circumstances for Crocker’s Rules?
Re: I beg you to follow Crocker's Rules, even if you will be rude to me
#13“My quirky autism excuses me being an asshole” is how most of this reads. “Maximally direct” people need to learn how to mask better, and if it costs them too much then they’re not suited for professional work anyway.
Re: I beg you to follow Crocker's Rules, even if you will be rude to me
#14This is pretty autistic. I kind of agree, being somewhat on the spectrum myself. But I think the world would be a considerably worse place if everyone abided by such rules.
>considerably worse place if everyone abided by such rules Those rules are not meant for everyone.
The blog post is an open letter: the author wants everyone reading to follow the those rules.
Re: I beg you to follow Crocker's Rules, even if you will be rude to me
#15Maybe this is a bit US-centric, direct negative feedback is very common in many cultures, e.g. Dutch
Re: I beg you to follow Crocker's Rules, even if you will be rude to me
#16“My quirky autism excuses me being an asshole” is how most of this reads. “Maximally direct” people need to learn how to mask better, and if it costs them too much then they’re not suited for professional work anyway.
The irony of your comment's tone is overwhelming.
Re: I beg you to follow Crocker's Rules, even if you will be rude to me
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
>considerably worse place if everyone abided by such rules Those rules are not meant for everyone.
The blog post is an open letter: the author wants everyone reading to follow the those rules.
No. Crocker's rules are a request for people to act a certain way with respect to you, not wrt anyone else.
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#19As with everything, I think there is an appropriate middle ground here. There is definitely too much beating around the bush in a lot of professional work, but some of that is actually useful and even good. Context doesn't always matter, but sometimes it does. Manners aren't always important, but sometimes they are.
A proper balance of direct and indirect is the appropriate tack to take.
Re: I beg you to follow Crocker's Rules, even if you will be rude to me
#20This is a recipe for disaster. Please don’t follow Crocker’s Rules; just get better at communicating than the person who wrote this.
Your comment declares your opinion without explanation, and so lacks substance and is unpersuasive as written. More information would help HN readers evaluate your claims fairly rather than dismiss you. In specific, I’d love to hear your views on these questions so I can give you serious consideration: > This is a recipe for disaster. What about Crocker’s Rules, and/or this post’s advice to follow them, do you consid…
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