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Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Because Elon is a criminal scam artist and a horrifying racist who seems to be completely detached from reality.

I really wish the days of kindergarten where we were taught if you didn't have anything nice to say about someone, don't say it at all.

If this is how you feel about oligarchs, well... I guess don't have anything to say.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Unfortunate. The Grok team built a phenomenal model. I use it all the time and it very often out performs GPT and Claude, on coding and STEM research related tasks. I was part of the beta for a while Grok 4.2 Beta with multi-agents and it was just amazingly good. People aren't using it for reasons other than its capabilities. I mean, I don't think my boss would approve a paid Grok subscription for example.

My experience was quite different. It was on par with open source models from China (and it was priced as much) and could never replace Sonnet/Opus/GPT5.x.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Feel like the canary was when Grokpedia became a project. Giant waste of time while Anthropic/OAI keep surging forward. I also keep hearing this narrative that Twitter is a good data source, but I cannot imagine it's a valuable dataset. Sure keeping up with realtime topics can be useful, but I am not sure how much of a product that is.

It’s pretty telling that Elon had to have Grok rewrite Wikipedia because the truth was too woke for him. No idea how anybody can ever take Grok seriously.

Many projects in his companies seem to be more and more Musk's vanity projects than ideas/products one can take seriously. This is also how tesla ended up with a huge cybertruck stock that nobody wants to buy and thus had to be bought by his other companies. And it is becoming worse and worse, especially ever since he bought twitter and sped up his twitting rates.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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That consent of portrayed parties is impossible. What is the solution there?

Portray fictional characters?

There are 8 billion humans, any fictional human is going to look almost exactly like at least one real human.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Not even Elon believes that Cursor is worth $50B or even $29B.

How can cursor be worth more than a few billion? Claude/Codex are already better autonomous SWE-lite replacements. Cognition surely has a better internal harness. Cursor does have a lot of users, I'll give it that.

Moats are weird right now… but Cursor doesn’t have one at all so I agree it can’t really be worth much.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Portray fictional characters?

There are 8 billion humans, any fictional human is going to look almost exactly like at least one real human.

How about obviously fictional portrayals then? Somewhat cartoonish or anime or artistic etc

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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[stub for generic-indignant tangents - not what this site is for - please see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ]

These kind of HN submissions test how fair discussions can be here: > Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity. Reference: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

So, it utterly fails? A good part of the community still seems to be stuck in 2017 where Elon could do no wrong.

Turns out a lot of not just wrong, but malice could be done in 9 years. And worse yet, incompetent malice. I don't know why that has to be a political statement these days, but thems the brakes here.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Twitter's communication style being based around brevity, slang, memes, spam and non-threaded conversations seems particularly unlikely to be helpful for optimising LLMs

>Twitter's communication style being based around brevity Is this still true? Every once in a while someone sends a link around to some madman explaining how race or economics or whatever "really" works and it's like a full dissertation with headings, footnotes, clip art. They're halfway to reinventing Grok-o-pedia right there in Twitter. I mean X. I was promised that "X gonna give it to you" but it turns out "it" is…

Elon was running some sort of $1m competition for the “best” Twitter post for a few months. I think those type of dissertations about Phrenology and the like have fallen off a cliff since the competition ended.
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