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The only reason I can think of for this change is governmental pressure. I don’t see how it benefits the platform itself (nor its users).
Isn't this actually improving safety by openly admitting how things always were in practice? Any e2e encryption provided by the same entity who fully controls both the blackbox clients, and the server in between, is just a security theatre that they can selectively bypass anytime with very little risk of detection. Not really much better than simple client to server encryption. Truly safe e2e requires open source cli…
one thing to consider is how just the optics of major players using e2e was an overall benefit. people who otherwise would have gone their entire lives without ever hearing about encryption were exposed to the term and the marketing convinced them that encryption and privacy was a valuable thing, even if they didnt fully understand the mechanisms or why e2e might not necessarily be very effective in specific circumst…
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And also so employees of said companies can spy on drivers and make fun of them: https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sens...
Which just shows that consumers don't care. Tesla's camera surveillance wasn't exactly secret.
Companies started pushing E2EE a few years ago because users' private messaging data used to be a liability. Now that the data can be fed into LLMs for training and inference its value has gone up significantly, and the privacy and security tradeoffs are suddenly worthwhile.
PMs across the industry are pushing product decks with "conversational AI assistants" to get their next promotion. I've been in more than one of these meetings myself. If the data is encrypted then there's no way to build this kind of stuff.
On the other hand Messenger has moved to only supporting e2ee chats, wonder why the difference.
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PR. They wanted to seem like the good guys, but they get your messages through backdoors like the automatic backup.
You're thinking of Apple. WhatsApp backups are not stored by Meta. Apple is the company that breaks their "end-to-end" encryption by backing up the encryption keys to their own servers.
Textbox with attribute ”encrypted”. Keys in the enclave/keychain.
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And also so employees of said companies can spy on drivers and make fun of them: https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sens...
Which just shows that consumers don't care. Tesla's camera surveillance wasn't exactly secret.
Isn't this actually improving safety by openly admitting how things always were in practice? Any e2e encryption provided by the same entity who fully controls both the blackbox clients, and the server in between, is just a security theatre that they can selectively bypass anytime with very little risk of detection. Not really much better than simple client to server encryption. Truly safe e2e requires open source cli…
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You're thinking of Apple. WhatsApp backups are not stored by Meta. Apple is the company that breaks their "end-to-end" encryption by backing up the encryption keys to their own servers.
You can opt-in to encrypting those backups so Apple have no access.