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Source code of Swedish e-government services has been leaked

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Re: Source code of Swedish e-government services has been leaked

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Post by ruszki »

whynotmaybe wrote: post #82
picafrost wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is good to highlight for non-Scandinavians. Scandinavian countries are extremely open and transparent in a way that might be shocking for Americans. For example, in Norway, I can check nearly anyone's brokerage account holdings, addresses, phone numbers, etc. on public websites. I can in theory look up anyone's tax filings. Personal identification numbers do not tend to be considered private in the same…

I heard a rumor that some people use this to check their neighbour's revenue and sometimes make snark comments if one of them has a high revenue but lives in a "average revenue" part of town. They'd say that if you earn a lot, you shouldn't take a cheap housing. Any truth to that?

What is the harm in this case? Shit people are shit even without information. They would be snark about something else then.

Re: Source code of Swedish e-government services has been leaked

#122

Post by PowerElectronix »

ROllerozxa wrote: post #111
ivell wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do they have handle identity thefts, spams, etc.? There are so many ways to misuse these data. Are the residents not concerned about this?

> How do they handle identity thefts By just accepting it as a normal fact of life that you will have some random stuff ordered in your name sooner or later with an invoice you'll have to dispute. Happened to a relative of mine, police do not care unless they order things above a certain value, without a police report you cannot get free ID protection, and then you'll have to sit for a long time in phone queues tryin…

That sounds rather unacceptable.

Re: Source code of Swedish e-government services has been leaked

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Post by concats »

ivell wrote: post #106
picafrost wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is good to highlight for non-Scandinavians. Scandinavian countries are extremely open and transparent in a way that might be shocking for Americans. For example, in Norway, I can check nearly anyone's brokerage account holdings, addresses, phone numbers, etc. on public websites. I can in theory look up anyone's tax filings. Personal identification numbers do not tend to be considered private in the same…

How do they have handle identity thefts, spams, etc.? There are so many ways to misuse these data. Are the residents not concerned about this?

Just knowing someone's name, address, and ID number isn't enough to like, open a bank account in their name or such. You'd need a proper ID card or passport for that. Similar thing with most businesses if you try to pay for some product with credit, they won't accept just a few digits and a pinky promise, you'll need to identify yourself properly (the BankID app for instance).

Re: Source code of Swedish e-government services has been leaked

#124

Post by SiempreViernes »

bondarchuk wrote: post #113
boxed wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's just a unique ID of a person, it's not a password. I don't see how you can be confused by this.

It's also "anyone's brokerage account holdings, addresses, phone numbers" according to the comment that this subthread of the conversation is about.

It only gives read permissions, to make any changes requires a password.

Re: Source code of Swedish e-government services has been leaked

#125

Post by guenthert »

ivell wrote: post #106
picafrost wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is good to highlight for non-Scandinavians. Scandinavian countries are extremely open and transparent in a way that might be shocking for Americans. For example, in Norway, I can check nearly anyone's brokerage account holdings, addresses, phone numbers, etc. on public websites. I can in theory look up anyone's tax filings. Personal identification numbers do not tend to be considered private in the same…

How do they have handle identity thefts, spams, etc.? There are so many ways to misuse these data. Are the residents not concerned about this?

We just change our identity every three years or so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK2gKuqbOHo

Re: Source code of Swedish e-government services has been leaked

#126

Post by ROllerozxa »

PowerElectronix wrote: post #122
ROllerozxa wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How do they handle identity thefts By just accepting it as a normal fact of life that you will have some random stuff ordered in your name sooner or later with an invoice you'll have to dispute. Happened to a relative of mine, police do not care unless they order things above a certain value, without a police report you cannot get free ID protection, and then you'll have to sit for a long time in phone queues tryin…

That sounds rather unacceptable.

Yes, I don't think anyone truly wants it to be like this. But it's just what happens.

You of course cannot access and empty out someone's bank account this way, you're safe in that regard. But you need to dispute the invoices as soon as possible to show that it is fradulent, so you don't end up needing to actually pay for it. Or get debt collectors after you.

Re: Source code of Swedish e-government services has been leaked

#127

Post by heraldgeezer »

whynotmaybe wrote: post #82
picafrost wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is good to highlight for non-Scandinavians. Scandinavian countries are extremely open and transparent in a way that might be shocking for Americans. For example, in Norway, I can check nearly anyone's brokerage account holdings, addresses, phone numbers, etc. on public websites. I can in theory look up anyone's tax filings. Personal identification numbers do not tend to be considered private in the same…

I heard a rumor that some people use this to check their neighbour's revenue and sometimes make snark comments if one of them has a high revenue but lives in a "average revenue" part of town. They'd say that if you earn a lot, you shouldn't take a cheap housing. Any truth to that?

We don't talk to our neighbours.

Re: Source code of Swedish e-government services has been leaked

#128

Post by whynotmaybe »

ruszki wrote: post #121
whynotmaybe wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I heard a rumor that some people use this to check their neighbour's revenue and sometimes make snark comments if one of them has a high revenue but lives in a "average revenue" part of town. They'd say that if you earn a lot, you shouldn't take a cheap housing. Any truth to that?

What is the harm in this case? Shit people are shit even without information. They would be snark about something else then.

I think it was covered during a discussion about immigrants that are easily rejected - because they're immigrants.

The points was that it added another layer of issues for immigrants because they didn't understand the neighbourhood they "should be living in" with their revenue.

Re: Source code of Swedish e-government services has been leaked

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Post by [deleted] »

picafrost wrote: post #72
wayfwdmachine wrote: post #62

Ok, some important context for non-Swedes. Anyone can get access to all Swedish (non-protected but those are a very VERY small subset) personal identification numbers by simply signing an agreement with SPAR[1] (the Swedish national people database). Identification numbers per se are not particularly useful or hard to get, they are effectively public information. Using SPAR you can also get the home (and any addition…

I think this is good to highlight for non-Scandinavians. Scandinavian countries are extremely open and transparent in a way that might be shocking for Americans. For example, in Norway, I can check nearly anyone's brokerage account holdings, addresses, phone numbers, etc. on public websites. I can in theory look up anyone's tax filings. Personal identification numbers do not tend to be considered private in the same…

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Re: Source code of Swedish e-government services has been leaked

#130

Post by [deleted] »

SiempreViernes wrote: post #124
bondarchuk wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's also "anyone's brokerage account holdings, addresses, phone numbers" according to the comment that this subthread of the conversation is about.

It only gives read permissions, to make any changes requires a password.

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