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Re: TUI Studio – visual terminal UI design tool

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Post by dec0dedab0de »

eterps wrote: post #16

This is nonsensical, there is nothing textual about the UIs being shown here. It doesn't stop being a GUI if you have a 1:1 representation of the concept within character cells. The UX actually matters, and TUIs are generally built for effectiveness and power (lazygit being an excellent example). But once you start adding mouse clickable tabs, buttons, checkboxes etc. you left the UX for TUIs behind and applied the U…

It's a TUI if it uses text to build those elements.

You can be effective and powerful in any kind of interface, Just like you can be ineffective and weak in any kind of interface. People like TUIs because they're cool, and work over SSH.

Re: TUI Studio – visual terminal UI design tool

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Post by yoz-y »

theowaway213456 wrote: post #24
banach wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One justification for TUIs is remote access over SSH.

You can tunnel a port over SSH and get a web UI locally, though it's not commonly done. I feel like more people would actually do this if tunneling a port was just ever so slightly easier (like, you're already SSH'd into a box, then you run a command, then you somehow automatically get a tunnel for that command's UI port plus a local browser window open to the page)

I like TUIs because I run everything in tmux and I can just pick up work from wherever I was on any computer, phone or tablet.

Re: TUI Studio – visual terminal UI design tool

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Post by zimpenfish »

jasongill wrote: post #47
theowaway213456 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can tunnel a port over SSH and get a web UI locally, though it's not commonly done. I feel like more people would actually do this if tunneling a port was just ever so slightly easier (like, you're already SSH'd into a box, then you run a command, then you somehow automatically get a tunnel for that command's UI port plus a local browser window open to the page)

While in an SSH session, press enter, then type tilde and capital C (enter ~C) and you can add command line options to the current session. To add a port forward from your local 8080 to the remote port 80 without closing the connection, do: enter ~C -L 8080:localhost:80

That is a neat trick. Added to the list.

(Ultimately unhelpful though because I use mosh everywhere these days and that doesn't appear to have anything fancy like this.)

Re: TUI Studio – visual terminal UI design tool

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Post by eterps »

clickety_clack wrote: post #57
eterps wrote: post #16

This is nonsensical, there is nothing textual about the UIs being shown here. It doesn't stop being a GUI if you have a 1:1 representation of the concept within character cells. The UX actually matters, and TUIs are generally built for effectiveness and power (lazygit being an excellent example). But once you start adding mouse clickable tabs, buttons, checkboxes etc. you left the UX for TUIs behind and applied the U…

Drawing a “nonsense” line between TUIs and GUIs is pretty arbitrary, it’s all pixels on a screen at the end of the day. People like the TUI vibe, and that’s a good enough reason to make and use them.

I actually agree with that. And I enjoy the fact that TUIs are becoming popular. But there is more to it than just the 'vibe'.

Re: TUI Studio – visual terminal UI design tool

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Post by drob518 »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #64

We got a RAD IDE for terminals before GTA6 and before anyone sensibly makes a replacement for Electron. Wild. This is really cool though.

I seem to remember having a RAD IDE for terminals with Turbo Pascal back in the 1990s. But yea, still before GTA6.

Re: TUI Studio – visual terminal UI design tool

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Post by coldpie »

wolvoleo wrote: post #58
roywiggins wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even easier is just using an X server, if you have it set up properly you just need to run the remote app and the window pops up on your machine. (I think terminal-based GUIs are neat just for fluidity of use- you can pop one open during a terminal session and close it without switching to mouse or shifting your attention away from the terminal. They can also be a nice addon to a primarily CLI utility without introdu…

Yeah I love that about X. I remember in the 90s when I first figured that out. I was logged in from a university workstation into my home computer with SSH and I launched my mail client or something and I thought doh, stupid that will only popup locally. Then colour my suprise when it popped up on my screen right there. Slow as molasses but still. Wow. Magic. It's a shame Wayland dropped this. Yes I know there's wayp…

> It's a shame Wayland dropped this.

It... really isn't. Like you said, remote X was barely usable even over an entirely local network. Most applications these days are also not designed for it, using loads of bitmap graphics instead of efficient, low-level primitives. So you end up being just one tiny step away from simply streaming a video of your windows. We have better tools for doing things remotely these days, there's a reason approximately no one has used remote X after the mid-90s. It's a neat party trick, but I don't blame the Wayland authors for not wanting to support it.

Re: TUI Studio – visual terminal UI design tool

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Post by jmmv »

sumnole wrote: post #60
eterps wrote: post #16

This is nonsensical, there is nothing textual about the UIs being shown here. It doesn't stop being a GUI if you have a 1:1 representation of the concept within character cells. The UX actually matters, and TUIs are generally built for effectiveness and power (lazygit being an excellent example). But once you start adding mouse clickable tabs, buttons, checkboxes etc. you left the UX for TUIs behind and applied the U…

The UIs are text only, so they are textual. Modern TUIs may support mouse events. That this tool can export to several TUI frameworks is evidence that these UIs are indeed TUIs, even if not the most traditional.

“Modern TUIs may support mouse events” hah! They already did in the 80s…
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