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An old photo of a large BBS (2022)

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Re: An old photo of a large BBS (2022)

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Does BBS still have a usage nowadays? I feel HN is not too different -- and actually offer less than a BBS -- back then there are a lot of goods on a large BBS. And it's easier to mix a pic with text, but I could be wrong.

Also thinking it's a lot environmental easier to host a BBS than a Discord server.

Re: An old photo of a large BBS (2022)

#62

Higher resolution photo https://web.archive.org/web/20230531042903im_/https://static...

In this picture it seems that all machines have a 3.5" floppy disk inserted. Maybe they had no hard drive and only booted from floppy and then ran software over the network?

A lot of network interface cards had a socket for an option ROM that would allow network boot, but you could definitely fit a client on a floppy and boot that way, too. Novell Netware server would be the mostly likely server for that vintage of rig and a Netware client fit easily on a floppy.

Re: An old photo of a large BBS (2022)

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post #3

I am surprised by the assumption that each box could only handle one modem. I seem to remember that some DOS BBS packages could handle multiple modems/users concurrently and only needed multitasking operating systems for “door” programs. Am I misremembering?

That assumption feeds into the moral of the post and its followup

Re: An old photo of a large BBS (2022)

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Higher resolution photo https://web.archive.org/web/20230531042903im_/https://static...

wait, are you OP? or did you happen to find a high res version of the same paper-copy picture that OP supposedly was given 30 years ago and then scanned and then threw out. or did OP make it up? or is OP just a bot?

maybe i'm a bot.

anyway i used to call into BBSs back in the early 90s and the thing I'm remembering is that they survived mostly on donations, and now that I am seeing the infrastructure that supported those systems and recalling the price of hardware back then I'm starting to second guess everything I thought I knew.

Re: An old photo of a large BBS (2022)

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren’t the modems the black boxes sitting on top of each PC in the picture?

yes, most of them look like USRobotics Courier modems. Note that not all the machines have one, and some have two. Assuming that the parent commenter is right and that they are using internal line cards, I wonder if the external modems were being added to support higher speeds. However, the fact that we can see at least 2 (but I think four) 66 blocks means they had 50 to 100 phone lines for the machines visible, whic…

I think you're right and that there were only two modems connected to the boxes so that's just the built in serial ports, here is another copy of the same picture by someone that apparently funded the board with some details:

https://x.com/ScottApogee/status/1593729387106512896

Re: An old photo of a large BBS (2022)

#67
post #32

The OS that was running on these is irrelevant, the important part is the BBS software. And these usually ran quite a few lines per box, sometimes they would use external racks of modems, but I'm not seeing that here so maybe these were using internal modem cards, so maybe 6 per box, but if they were using external modems it could easily be 12 or more, with the PC cards hosting multiple serial ports, 4, 6 or even 8 p…

Yeah, this jumped out at me too. It's a wild misunderstanding of how BBSes worked. That said, I have no idea how a multi-node BBS would work, in terms of keeping state synchronized.

> It's a wild misunderstanding of how BBSes worked.

That's quite the assumption.

There were a lot of different BBS hosting programs. They wildly varied in what they supported and how they were implemented. Further even within a given piece of software the ways you could configure them and the consequences also varied. Even if a given software supported concurrent users on a single PC for various reasons a BBS might choose not to host that way.

Re: An old photo of a large BBS (2022)

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post #3

I am surprised by the assumption that each box could only handle one modem. I seem to remember that some DOS BBS packages could handle multiple modems/users concurrently and only needed multitasking operating systems for “door” programs. Am I misremembering?

A guy who was local to me, when I was a kid, wrote multi-user BBS system (called "MUBBS" originally-- I don't remember what the name was changed to later) in Turbo Pascal that had a preemptive multitasking loop running in x86 real mode to handle multiple lines simultaneously. The coolest part was the console was just a "line" so you could logon to the board and interact while somebody was online with the BBS, too. Most other DOS BBS packages were only available for the SYSOP or the caller individually.

Edit: Ugh... I'm gonna have to go back to floppy images to find it. There's a "MUBBS" for Mac from 1992 showing up in search engine results but that's not the one I'm thinking of. It was more like 1989 or 1990.

Re: An old photo of a large BBS (2022)

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Higher resolution photo https://web.archive.org/web/20230531042903im_/https://static...

Oh that's a breaker box (or a box of wiring of some sort), not a mirror!

A mirror? I first saw it as a common (US-centric) exterior metal door, with a window -- and with a shelf blocking the opening.

The blur does interesting things.

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