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Re: Malus – Clean Room as a Service

#241
Why only FOSS? Why not Wikipedia?

You take Wikipedia, an LLM rewrites every single article giving them your preferred political spin and generates many more pictures for it. You make it sleeker, and price it at 4.99$ per month.

EDIT: That's crazy. They already did that. Waiting for the torment nexus now I guess.

Re: Malus – Clean Room as a Service

#242
post #50

"I used to feel guilty about not attributing open source maintainers. Then I remembered that guilt doesn't show up on quarterly reports. Thank you, MalusCorp." ◆ Chad Stockholder Engineering Director, Profit First LLC

Certain views of OSS and its relation to commercial software always seemed to be fraught with highly voluntarist and moralizing attitudes and an intellectual naivete.

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Re: Malus – Clean Room as a Service

#243
post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> why hasn't anyone done this for real? WDYM? LLMs are essentially this.

Most LLMs are trained on a lot of the source code for many open-source projects. This 'project' has the whole song-and-dance about never seeing the source code and separating the system to skirt around legal trouble. Why didn't anyone do that yet?

not a lot of code is public domain and thus not a lot of training data is available

Re: Malus – Clean Room as a Service

#244
post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We are all making a continual and ongoing grave error > Blindly translating those centuries of laws into rigid, free enforcement is a terrible idea for everyone. I understand your point that changing the enforcement changes how the law is "felt" even though on the paper the law has not changed. And I think it makes sense to review and potentially revise the laws when enforcement methods change. But in the specific…

> would the consequences really be grave and terrible if the enforcement was enforced by a robot The potential consequences of mass surveillance come to mind.

OK, but that would be a consequence of the specific enforcement method, not a consequence the law becoming de facto stricter due to stricter enforcement.

Re: Malus – Clean Room as a Service

#245
The law should be updated to limit clean room reimplementation to a strictly human endeavor. Person, in a faraday cage room, with a machine that is too underpowered to run local LLMs. Reference material (stack overflow archives, language docs, specs, etc) are permitted.

Re: Malus – Clean Room as a Service

#249
The post claims (tongue-in-cheek, of course) that their customer owns the resulting code.

But that's not true!

According to binding precedent, works created by an AI are not protected by copyright. NO ONE OWNS THEM!!!

I think maybe this is a good thing, but honestly, it's hard to tell.

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