Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Claude now creates interactive charts, diagrams and visualizations

claude.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

51–60 of 124 posts

Re: Claude now creates interactive charts, diagrams and visualizations

#51

Post by overfeed »

darepublic wrote: post #48

When I ask chatgpt to create a mermaid diagram for me it regularly will add new lines to certain labels that will break the parse. If you then feed the parse error back to it the second version is always correct And it seems to exactly know the problem. There are some other examples where it will almost always get it wrong the first time but right if nudged to correct itself. I wonder what the underlying cause is

> I wonder what the underlying cause is

It responds with the statistically most probable text based on its training data, which happens to be different with the errors vs without. I suspect high-fidelity diagramming requires a different attention architecture from the common ones used in sentence-optimized models.

Re: Claude now creates interactive charts, diagrams and visualizations

#52

Post by kemayo »

captainbland wrote: post #13

I feel like this is a feature which improves the perceived confidence of the LLM but doesn't do much for correctness of other outputs, i.e. an exacerbation of the "confidently incorrect" criticism.

It's a mismatch with our intuition about how much effort things take.

If there's humans involved, "I took this data and made a really fancy interactive chart" means that you put a lot more work into it, and you can probably somewhat assume that this means some more effort was also put into the accuracy of the data.

But with the LLM it's not really very much more work to get the fancy chart. So the thing that was a signifier of effort is now misleading us into trusting data that got no extra effort.

(Humans have been exploiting this tendency to trust fancy graphics forever, of course.)

Re: Claude now creates interactive charts, diagrams and visualizations

#53

Post by dheera »

ericmcer wrote: post #38
fixxation92 wrote: post #2

I find it absolutely mindblowing to witness the rate at which Anthropic can ship new features. Only a year ago I couldn't wait to see some sort of Github integration and then it appeared only a week later. Seriously impressive stuff.

They also pay... insane salaries, like double industry average. That coupled with an IPO on the horizon means they probably have their pick of engineers.

Their interviews are actually very much focused on how fast you can code something that works.

Re: Claude now creates interactive charts, diagrams and visualizations

#54

Post by j45 »

nerdjon wrote: post #36
j45 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A vendor doesn't have to bend for another. Always best to sign in with your own email address.

There are a lot of websites that only support third party login, so that is not always an option. They don't have to bend for another, but they made a choice to put an app on iOS. They added support for apple signin, and then for some reason did not put it on their website. You can criticize Apple for requiring that all you want, but they clearly have support for it and are choosing to not put it on their website whi…

No criticism from me towards apple or Anthropic. Both parties made their choice. Apple was late to the identity business and the other ships had already sailed.

Third party logins are an extension and a massive risk to any website that doesn't include email hosting.

We have see identity providers dissapear, and people may change their mind.

Easiest way is to register you rown domain and use it with an identity provider of your choice and be able to move it anywhere.

Otherwise we are a faceless citizen of a corporation that can handle access to our identity and everything attached to it without recourse or access to anyone.

Re: Claude now creates interactive charts, diagrams and visualizations

#56

Post by alansaber »

wuweiaxin wrote: post #44

Reliability has been the real bottleneck for multi-agent setups in production. The hard part isnt getting one agent to do something clever once - its making repeated runs observable and bounded when tools fail halfway through. Idempotency checks, explicit handoff state, and human review gates have mattered more for us than adding another model or another agent role.

New account spamming LM replies, nice

Re: Claude now creates interactive charts, diagrams and visualizations

#59

Post by deckar01 »

darepublic wrote: post #48

When I ask chatgpt to create a mermaid diagram for me it regularly will add new lines to certain labels that will break the parse. If you then feed the parse error back to it the second version is always correct And it seems to exactly know the problem. There are some other examples where it will almost always get it wrong the first time but right if nudged to correct itself. I wonder what the underlying cause is

Mermaid is really bad about cutting off text after spaces, so you have to insert
s everywhere. I’m guessing this is getting rendered instead of escaped by your interface. Or just lost in translation at the tokenizer.

Re: Claude now creates interactive charts, diagrams and visualizations

#60

Post by Angostura »

vunderba wrote: post #39
captainbland wrote: post #13

I feel like this is a feature which improves the perceived confidence of the LLM but doesn't do much for correctness of other outputs, i.e. an exacerbation of the "confidently incorrect" criticism.

A similar thing happened when Google started really pushing generating flowcharts as a use-case with Nano Banana. A slick presentation can distract people from the only thing that really matters - the accuracy of the underlying data.

As a slightly different tack, I’ve been using Copilot to generate flowcharts from some of the fiendishly complex (and badly written) standard operating procedures we have at work.

People find them quite easy to check - easier than the raw document. My angle with teams is use these to check your processes. If the flow is wrong it’s either because the LLM has screwed up, or because the policy is wrong/badly written. It’s usually the latter. It’s a good way to fix SOPs

Post reply on HN