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US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

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Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

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Post by relaxing »

dizlexic wrote: post #23
VK-pro wrote: post #7

One of the self-owns of all time. Triggering a global supply chain crisis right before midterms is bottom of the barrel strategy. But then again, who expects competency from any recent American administration, most especially this one?

Depends, I just want to point out that the US is a net exporter of Oil. They also secured oil imports from Venezuela while at the same time in 2 strokes seriously hurt Chinese oil imports. If the goal was to hurt China / BRICS and kneecap Iran it seems on point. It's always hard to predict how the USA will vote when "war" is happening.

China is still moving tankers through the strait, Iran has no quarrel with them.

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Post by lm28469 »

hereme888 wrote: post #22

The US will make a LOT of money from selling their oil at premium. https://x.com/sentdefender/status/2032091651422720197 *Edit: Now I understand that some companies may make more money, but the economy overall may suffer. *Seems like I hit a nerve with stereotypical people groups.

Either it's purely for monetary gain and it's dumb.

Or it's for "Da NuKeS ThEy AbOuT To GeT" it's even dumb because they killed the only dude who was against Iran getting nukes. [0]

Or he got tricked by bibi &co into yet another middle east war I don't have words to describe how dumb it is.

[0] Iranian intelligence minister Esmaeil Khatib said that the country may nevertheless change their stance if "pushed in that direction" like a "cornered cat". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Khamenei%27s_fatwa_against...

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

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Post by ultratalk »

OutOfHere wrote: post #48

Trump has given a surprise gift to renewable energy worldwide, one that the sector should not fail to use.

A lot of the world tried to shift to renewables during the ~10-year-long 1970s embargo. They went straight back to sweet old oil afterwards. This isn't gonna last nearly as long. Don't get me wrong, I hope and pray that renewables get a boost out of this, but I don't think it's gonna happen.

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

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Post by ForHackernews »

garciasn wrote: post #15
VK-pro wrote: post #7

One of the self-owns of all time. Triggering a global supply chain crisis right before midterms is bottom of the barrel strategy. But then again, who expects competency from any recent American administration, most especially this one?

What’s baffling to me is how they’re going to attempt to spin the colossal fuck up this is from a “Best Military in the World” perspective, particularly after their unapproved relabeling of the DoD to the DoW.

It doesn't matter how good the military is if the political leadership is incompetent and the strategic objectives are incoherent. You'd think that after Vietnam, Iraq 2, and Afghanistan this lesson would have been learned, but apparently not.

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

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Post by simonh »

gzread wrote: post #10
nubg wrote: post #8

Why did they attempt to pass the closed Strait of Hormuz?

What does "closed" mean in this context?

I'd say the analogy is a closed door.

It's not that it's impossible to go through it, but you have to do something specific in order to do so beyond just trying to go through, or you're going to walk straight into getting a bloodey nose.

But yeah, these ships weren't anywhere near the strait.

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

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Post by 3rodents »

dizlexic wrote: post #23
VK-pro wrote: post #7

One of the self-owns of all time. Triggering a global supply chain crisis right before midterms is bottom of the barrel strategy. But then again, who expects competency from any recent American administration, most especially this one?

Depends, I just want to point out that the US is a net exporter of Oil. They also secured oil imports from Venezuela while at the same time in 2 strokes seriously hurt Chinese oil imports. If the goal was to hurt China / BRICS and kneecap Iran it seems on point. It's always hard to predict how the USA will vote when "war" is happening.

“If the goal was the hurt China…”

You are mistaken to assume there was a goal. Trump has admitted he did this because he was told that Iran were about to attack the U.S. not because of any strategic goal.

https://youtube.com/shorts/YlkcOjSQVJk

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

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Post by edaemon »

bilekas wrote: post #28

It was my understanding the the tankers could not be insured or it was prohibitively high cost without the margin cost covered and therefore could not pass through. https://www.spglobal.com/energy/en/news-research/latest-news... Either way for sure this will cause further backlog. And for what.

These particular ships technically were not attempting to pass through the strait, they were anchored in Iraqi territorial waters. The backlog will extend even further now that it can be considered risky to be anywhere near the strait.

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

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Post by add-sub-mul-div »

comeonbro wrote: post #51
hereme888 wrote: post #22

The US will make a LOT of money from selling their oil at premium. https://x.com/sentdefender/status/2032091651422720197 *Edit: Now I understand that some companies may make more money, but the economy overall may suffer. *Seems like I hit a nerve with stereotypical people groups.

That is hilarious cope. The US benefits far far relatively more when the global economy is running smoothly than when able to sell oil higher, like some shithole petrostate. Appropriate I suppose.

You're replying to someone who gets their political analysis from Twitter. Hilarious is the best case.
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