Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

lloydslist.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

71–80 of 316 posts

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

#71

Post by lejalv »

garciasn wrote: post #15
VK-pro wrote: post #7

One of the self-owns of all time. Triggering a global supply chain crisis right before midterms is bottom of the barrel strategy. But then again, who expects competency from any recent American administration, most especially this one?

What’s baffling to me is how they’re going to attempt to spin the colossal fuck up this is from a “Best Military in the World” perspective, particularly after their unapproved relabeling of the DoD to the DoW.

Including starting with murdering 100+ kids based on stale intelligence, according to the NY times.

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

#73

Post by tjpnz »

VK-pro wrote: post #7

One of the self-owns of all time. Triggering a global supply chain crisis right before midterms is bottom of the barrel strategy. But then again, who expects competency from any recent American administration, most especially this one?

Curious timing given the latest from the Epstein files.

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

#74

Post by bootsmann »

chinathrow wrote: post #25
yxhuvud wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm actually somewhat surprised Iran is openly telling us they are using underwater drones for this. That piece of technological advance has gone mostly under the radar (!) so far.

> That piece of technological advance has gone mostly under the radar (!) so far The Ukraine would like to have a word.

It’s Ukraine, no “the”.

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

#75

Post by dylan604 »

sanex wrote: post #12
nubg wrote: post #8

Why did they attempt to pass the closed Strait of Hormuz?

They were docked. And who gets to say a waterway is open or closed?

They were anchored. Slightly different than being docked, even if the overall point remains. The other thing is they were in Iraqi waters

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

#76

Post by technothrasher »

chinathrow wrote: post #25
yxhuvud wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm actually somewhat surprised Iran is openly telling us they are using underwater drones for this. That piece of technological advance has gone mostly under the radar (!) so far.

> That piece of technological advance has gone mostly under the radar (!) so far The Ukraine would like to have a word.

FYI, "The Ukraine" is politically charged wording held over from Soviet times, and implies that it is part of Russia. The independent country is known simply as "Ukraine".

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

#77

Post by nine_zeros »

VK-pro wrote: post #7

One of the self-owns of all time. Triggering a global supply chain crisis right before midterms is bottom of the barrel strategy. But then again, who expects competency from any recent American administration, most especially this one?

[dead]

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

#78

Post by lesuorac »

gtowey wrote: post #33
p-o wrote: post #11

Why did we have to go through all this pain. Was that really necessary? And given we mostly talk about technology here, let me put this through that lens: With all the technology advancement and improvement with access to information in the last 30 years, why does it feel that all of this culminates to more disinformation, more pain, and less understanding?

It's because technology doesn't change the fundamentals of global geopolitics. Which is that nearly all of history can be explained as a struggle to control basic resources such as arable land, oil, minerals, etc. Everything you're seeing today is because those resources are becoming either increasingly scarce, or increasingly valuable.

Are they?

We have so much stuff that we just throw things away if a tiny piece of it gets tarnished / broken.

The US's population density is pretty low and we have a ton of land not in cities that's very sparsely populated.

Like it largely seems that geopolitics of now is about creating scarcity.

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

#79

Post by augusto-moura »

malfist wrote: post #38
toyg wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These people live on manufacturing crisis after crisis in order to exploit the manic status that they generate. Why worry about how the midterms, if you can create a situation where elections cannot be held at all...? Yes, it sounds crazy right now, but a lot of things sounded similarly crazy 10 years ago, and here we are.

There is no crisis in the US that results in canceled elections

In the current laws you mean, dictatorships usually start by throwing current laws out of the window. Not that I believe Trump would do that, but it is not unheard of in other parts of the world

Re: US- and Greek-owned tankers ablaze after Iran claims 'underwater drone' strike

#80

Post by wing-_-nuts »

bootsmann wrote: post #6

Noone could’ve seen this coming, how were they supposed to know that the strait of hormuz is so important!

This is very much a 'you break it, you buy it' situation. The US should be running destroyer screens for convoys a la WW2 today, yet AFAIK the US fleet is sitting hundreds of miles out of the Persian Gulf, within bombing range, outside of easy strike range.
Post reply on HN