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I don't see why they demonize this: "If Google decides that HTML5 web apps are the way forward, making them a first-class citizen in future versions of Android, then other mobile OSes will have no other option than to follow suit."
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You also have to see in USA, people will get the phone at subsidized amount. Like most phone on a two year plan cost between $99 to $199. Macbook maybe luxury in the computer world, but iPhone, not really
So isn't that telling then that Android is outpacing the iPhone in sales?
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Nothing impressive with this. I know of a few companies that sold crappy devices with crappy OS's. RIM, Nokia, etc. and they dominated the market. Android has become the new Nokia. Big Market Share. Worthless user-base.
Yep, 75% of the market loves to buy crappy devices with crappy OSs. The fact that high end Android devices are popular and sell well (SGSIII? Samsung's profits being damn impressive next to Apple's?) is just a weird inconvenient fact.
No, 70% of the market doesn't care and merely what the blingest device for the lowest cost with the highest amount of minutes and texts, data is barely an afterthought. Samsung offering sales commissions doesn't hurt either, or is that 'just a weird inconvenient fact'?
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I'll take 25% of the smart, willing-to-pay-and-buy userbase, than 75% of the dumb, not-willing-to-pay-for-anything android users.
Why are you being so stubborn? Just, why? What do you stand to gain from this?
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I'll take 25% of the smart, willing-to-pay-and-buy userbase, than 75% of the dumb, not-willing-to-pay-for-anything android users.
Why are you being so stubborn? Just, why? What do you stand to gain from this?
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Maybe what _you_ call Android. I don't think most of us fall into that category. What do you call the OS running on the Nook or Kindle?
Android fork? AOSP? Something besides "Android" because what consumers know as "Android" includes Gmail and Google Play.
Gmail and Google Play are not Android, they are pieces of an app suite from Google.
Samsung licensing Google Apps for their android-based operating system is not that different from Samsung licensing Adobe reader for their Android-based operating system. And Amazon is not making a fork. Amazon's software is fully compatible with Android 4.0.3.
Android is what you find at http://source.android.com/
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I agree that most of Android phones are crappy. Mostly because of Android customizations, old versions of Android and boring-looking hardware. But Nexus 4 is on par with iPhone 5 (while being 2 times cheaper).
It's pretty clearly from reviews so far that Nexus 4 is just another mid range Android phone. No LTE, poor build quality, slow CPU/GPU, average camera.
"As of right now, it is officially my favorite phone by a healthy margin. It’s just so fast, so smooth, and the software is great."
NFC, 2 times bigger RAM, gerat build quality, quad-core processor.
Even if you think that iP5 is superior, you have to admit that N4's value / price is way higher.
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Why are you being so stubborn? Just, why? What do you stand to gain from this?
Google is the false messiah. They don't care about innovation or creating great products. They don't care about user experience. they don't care about you. All Google cares about is serving you crappy ads.
I don't know how you define innovative if you don't consider the amazing intelligence behind Google Now innovative, or don't find the new 4.2 features innovative, or at least innovative in a smartdevice OS. I hate to tell you because it seems you are vitriolic about the point, but it's always been about ads, they're a business. But obviously the experience has to be compelling enough to get you to buy into it .... so OF COURSE they're competing on experience. And anyone who's used an Android phone recently in good faith knows that.
What's this nonsense about them "not caring" anyway. Do you REALLY think that Irving "cares" more about the design of iOS than Duarte cares about Android? And does it really make a difference, especially given that Android has managed to avoid the 2005 era plastic skeumorphism and created something awesome in its own right with Holo?
Again, this isn't 2009 anymore.
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I meant on par in overall user experience, not that they are equivalent in every feature. iPhone has shitty maps, no NFC, worse CPU/GPU (I think), no expandable notifications, etc.
iPhone has much, much better CPU/GPU than Nexus 4. Nearly twice as fast in most cases. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6426/ipad-4-gpu-performance-an...
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It bears repeating that "what we call Android" is more then just what is available as open source. It's all that plus a lot of closed source: Maps, Play, Gmail, etc.
Maybe what _you_ call Android. I don't think most of us fall into that category. What do you call the OS running on the Nook or Kindle?
I'm calling bullshit. People all the time refer to Maps as one of, if not the biggest advantage of Android. Same thing with the Gmail client. In this very thread you refer to a Chrome for Android (not Chromium afaik) feature as Android (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4734771).
"What do you call the OS running on the Nook or Kindle?"
Properly it's AOSP. That fact that Google has, whether intentionally or unintentionally, created a lot of confusion between AOSP (which you can't even use the Android mark with) and "what most people call Android" (the one you can actually use the Android mark with) doesn't mean you get to have your cake ("we're open") and eat it too ("android is so great because of !").
http://marketingland.com/what-is-the-one-true-android-and-ho...