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Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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Post by mongol »

dquigley wrote: post #11

Clay Christensen in the Innovators Solution lays out an explanation for what is happening here. Apple used vertical integration to make a giant leap forward with their iPhone that you couldn't have made in a non-integrated company. They ended up overshooting the typical consumer's needs though in the following iterations of the iPhone. And the technology that was at first difficult for competitors to reproduce became…

I think it could be a better TV experience ("smart tvs"), or something related to wearable computing, such as watches.

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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Post by taligent »

Tyrannosaurs wrote: post #115
taligent wrote: post #109

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Of course just comparing on price ignores some big differences. Nexus 4 has no LTE. Nexus 7 has terrible build quality. Nexus 10 has nearly half the battery life.

You're the first person I've ever heard say that the Nexus 7 has terrible build quality and the AnandTech figures show that the 10 has around 90% of the iPad battery life rather than "nearly half".

Maybe you should Google it because it is pretty common knowledge that Nexus 7 is very hit/miss in terms of build quality.

And I stupidly compared battery life against iPad Mini. So it is not half and not 90%. It's about 65% of the iPad according to Engadget.

Nexus 10: 7.26 hours, iPad 4: 11.08 hours

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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Post by rogerbinns »

mtgx wrote: post #101
rogerbinns wrote: post #29

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Asymco (highly recommended analysis site for the mobile industry) has an excellent article on this "over serving" issue http://www.asymco.com/2012/09/18/is-the-iphone-good-enough/ One thing he notes is that Apple sell the current (new) generation device at the same time as they sell the previous generation for less. By looking at sales they can tell if they are over serving - people will buy the previous generation b…

And yet, even with that strategy being implemented for the past few years, the iPhone is losing in global market share, and Android is 5x bigger now. So it's not very effective in this context.

What "market share" are you measuring? If it is number of devices sold then so what. Maybe narrowing down to number smartphones sold? A little more interesting.

How about instead we look at market share of revenues? Even better what about share of profits since that makes more business sense. Asymco has a post for that: http://www.asymco.com/2012/02/03/first-apples-rank-in-mobile...

I prefer Android myself, but claims of Apple "losing" need to be substantiated. It is certainly the case they are losing the least profitable customers but that is a very hard business to be in.

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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Post by Retric »

myko wrote: post #96
MaysonL wrote: post #53

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And of course, looking toward the market saturation point, every survey I've seen shows that the Android-> iOS switch rate is significantly higher than the iOS -> Android switch rate. If that changes, Apple should watch out. Another interesting statistic, from Opera, was their report that iPad produced more ad revenue than all of Android.

Maybe because a far superior mobile browser, Chrome, is available on Android devices?

I use Chrome on my iPad.

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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Post by myko »

Retric wrote: post #124
myko wrote: post #96

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Maybe because a far superior mobile browser, Chrome, is available on Android devices?

I use Chrome on my iPad.

Chrome on iOS isn't quite superior though. It's got a nicer interface but it feels much slower.

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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Post by myko »

Steko wrote: post #105
neya wrote: post #56

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http://source.android.com/

It bears repeating that "what we call Android" is more then just what is available as open source. It's all that plus a lot of closed source: Maps, Play, Gmail, etc.

Maybe what _you_ call Android. I don't think most of us fall into that category.

What do you call the OS running on the Nook or Kindle?

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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Post by myko »

taligent wrote: post #104
neya wrote: post #56

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http://source.android.com/

Actually Android is closer to shared source than open source. A typical open source project has an open repository, allows third party contributors, open issue tracking etc. Last time I checked Android had none of these and only released source code after a release.

https://android-review.googlesource.com/#/q/status:open,n,z

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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Post by shinratdr »

RivieraKid wrote: post #77
shinratdr wrote: post #62

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> But Nexus 4 is on par with iPhone 5 (while being 2 times cheaper). Assuming you consider no LTE and a plastic body to be "on par".

I meant on par in overall user experience, not that they are equivalent in every feature. iPhone has shitty maps, no NFC, worse CPU/GPU (I think), no expandable notifications, etc.

I don't know how two devices, one of which can connect to a data network 5-10x faster than the other, can be considered "on par in overall user experience".

And as Taligent noted, as always the PowerVR GPU in the iPhone absolutely without question smokes every crappy Mali GPU in every Android phone ever.

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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Post by shinratdr »

myko wrote: post #126
Steko wrote: post #105

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It bears repeating that "what we call Android" is more then just what is available as open source. It's all that plus a lot of closed source: Maps, Play, Gmail, etc.

Maybe what _you_ call Android. I don't think most of us fall into that category. What do you call the OS running on the Nook or Kindle?

Android fork? AOSP? Something besides "Android" because what consumers know as "Android" includes Gmail and Google Play.

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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shinratdr wrote: post #129
myko wrote: post #126

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Maybe what _you_ call Android. I don't think most of us fall into that category. What do you call the OS running on the Nook or Kindle?

Android fork? AOSP? Something besides "Android" because what consumers know as "Android" includes Gmail and Google Play.

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