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X is selling existing users' handles

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Re: X is selling existing users' handles

#81
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I see lots of people defending this. What if the owner doesn't post, but reads and uses DM? What if they post the delete their posts when it gets old? Like Michael Burry?

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@dang, how much to buy the user account "seydor", I need it for uh, reasons.

edit: tempted to clarify with /s but that would defeat the point of the response..

Re: X is selling existing users' handles

#82
post #44

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But why should they have to use another handle just because someone wants it? Your handle is your online identity, and some people have built up theirs around it. Not everyone just chooses random strings for each service they use. Of course, I'm only saying this for active accounts. If you've been inactive for a reasonable amount of time, sure, let someone else have it.

i m not saying it's right, but also don't see a lot of value in handles

Twitter has 2 levels of verification tag that's what usually verifies users, as there are so many impersonators. Even when twitter removes the verification (like they did for iran's foreign minister) , people use other channels to point to the real one.

Re: X is selling existing users' handles

#84

That is what I like about NOSTR. Your keys == Your account It is about time to stop having identities tied to companies.

I like the idea of nostr, I don't like the experience of nostr.

Can't complain. Primal works great for browsers and Amethyst is my choice on mobile.

Other than that it is really great to build apps on top of NOSTR relays. My personal goal is to turn each user phone on a relay so we can walk with our own data on the pockets while still sharing with other relays as we wish.

Re: X is selling existing users' handles

#85
post #44

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@dang, how much to buy the user account "seydor", I need it for uh, reasons. edit: tempted to clarify with /s but that would defeat the point of the response..

Cool that you said this with an username like yours, as I do not think you would care for less, or more of underscores. :D

Re: X is selling existing users' handles

#86

I think it’s fine. Someone squatted one of my names on GitHub. No activity. Nothing. I emailed them because I wanted it. They gave it to me. I’m not going to be called improbable_coaster_2740 just because some fool decided it was a good use of his time to register a bunch of usernames.

In this case they will not give it to you if they bought it for 100k USD though.

Re: X is selling existing users' handles

#87
post #36

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> if they sell a username that has been active (posting, replying) in the past 6 months then it'd be a big deal for sure. What about this scenario: If you register a domain name, a bot registers a related handle/name/brand pretty quick if you do not. So, you register a twitter handle to preserve your brand identity right after registering a new domain. You don't check it for 6 months. Is it OK for Twitter to sell tha…

If you don't pay for a domain name you could lose it too. If I signed up for a free social media account hosted by another company and neither logged in or posted on it for a year then it got autodeleted for inactivity, I wouldn't really feel I had a particularly strong claim to it.

One thing that makes handle markets uncomfortable is that social media identifiers sit in a strange space between identity and platform resource.

Domain names are usually treated as leased assets with a clear renewal cycle. Social media handles, on the other hand, often feel more like identity markers, especially when someone has used them for years.

When platforms reclaim dormant handles and then auction them, the model shifts from “resource management” to “asset monetization”. That changes user expectations quite a bit.

If a platform wants to recycle dormant identifiers, a transparent policy with predictable timelines and clear notices would probably feel more legitimate than quietly moving them into a marketplace.

Re: X is selling existing users' handles

#88

I think that dormant accounts, where someone has not logged in for, say, 2 years, does not post, does not engage, should be repurposed - with given notice. It's kind of the equivalent of cybersquatting. Also, technically, a platform is within its right to do this. I think the better course of action is to utilize the account. Gmail has made this clear that if you don't log into an account after some time they will re…

I disagree, there are security implications if an account was previously linked to someone but then it’s repurposed allowing for fraudulent social engineering use to occur. It’s like as if Gmail gave your email to someone else after a while. They don’t because it’s a bad idea.

both of you used gmail as an example to make opposing arguments

Re: X is selling existing users' handles

#89
post #88

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I disagree, there are security implications if an account was previously linked to someone but then it’s repurposed allowing for fraudulent social engineering use to occur. It’s like as if Gmail gave your email to someone else after a while. They don’t because it’s a bad idea.

both of you used gmail as an example to make opposing arguments

Yes, the other person is mistaken, Google does not repurpose accounts.

Re: X is selling existing users' handles

#90
post #88

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I disagree, there are security implications if an account was previously linked to someone but then it’s repurposed allowing for fraudulent social engineering use to occur. It’s like as if Gmail gave your email to someone else after a while. They don’t because it’s a bad idea.

both of you used gmail as an example to make opposing arguments

I'm confused about that. I was pretty sure that Google's policy was that, while they'll delete inactive accounts, the addresses don't become available for use. I thought those addresses were basically dead.

But at least one poster says they're reusing addresses.

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