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Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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Clay Christensen in the Innovators Solution lays out an explanation for what is happening here. Apple used vertical integration to make a giant leap forward with their iPhone that you couldn't have made in a non-integrated company. They ended up overshooting the typical consumer's needs though in the following iterations of the iPhone. And the technology that was at first difficult for competitors to reproduce became…

Asymco (highly recommended analysis site for the mobile industry) has an excellent article on this "over serving" issue http://www.asymco.com/2012/09/18/is-the-iphone-good-enough/ One thing he notes is that Apple sell the current (new) generation device at the same time as they sell the previous generation for less. By looking at sales they can tell if they are over serving - people will buy the previous generation b…

And yet, even with that strategy being implemented for the past few years, the iPhone is losing in global market share, and Android is 5x bigger now. So it's not very effective in this context.

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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There's a slide in here which shows apple has ten times the app download revenues that android has: http://www.businessinsider.com/state-of-internet-slides-2012...

This. From an app developer's perspective, there's no contest currently. And mobile web usage isn't looking much better for Android: http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-android-mobile-web-usag... No doubt more and more phones in pockets will be running Android. But how many will really be used like smart phones?

> From an app developer's perspective, there's no contest currently.

To be more exact, this is the perspective of a developer looking to monetize their application by selling directly to users.

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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> Big Market Share. Worthless user-base. You sound exactly like these people standing in line for iPhones in the Samsung commercial.

that commercial is a terrible piece of advertising. I would have gotten a samsung for testing because its the best android phone (as far as i can tell as an iphone user) but i won't anymore. Telling your potential customers that they are idiots isn't a good strategy. I'll buy a nexus, htc, or motorola instead.

Funny, that is exactly why I don't use Apple products.

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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Android is open source? Cool! Where's the source code?

http://source.android.com/

Actually Android is closer to shared source than open source.

A typical open source project has an open repository, allows third party contributors, open issue tracking etc. Last time I checked Android had none of these and only released source code after a release.

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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Android is open source? Cool! Where's the source code?

http://source.android.com/

It bears repeating that "what we call Android" is more then just what is available as open source. It's all that plus a lot of closed source: Maps, Play, Gmail, etc.

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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> Big Market Share. Worthless user-base. You sound exactly like these people standing in line for iPhones in the Samsung commercial.

that commercial is a terrible piece of advertising. I would have gotten a samsung for testing because its the best android phone (as far as i can tell as an iphone user) but i won't anymore. Telling your potential customers that they are idiots isn't a good strategy. I'll buy a nexus, htc, or motorola instead.

Apple was accused of calling their own customers idiots with their 'Genius' ads (which they quickly discontinued). I'm assuming you will also be boycotting Apple?

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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The Android codebase may not be killable, but Android as a platform certainly is. Google is the only thing holding Android together; if they pull out or a major OEM or carrier grows balls, they'll fork and the ecosystem will shatter. Remember Android is mainly [edit: Apache] licensed so there's no requirement for forkers to stay open; I have serious doubts OEMs and carriers are interested in helping their competitors…

Actually it's Apache: http://source.android.com/source/licenses.html

My fault. Noted.

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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Simple: people who have the kind of income to pay a premium for Apple devices will also be more willing and able to pay a premium for good apps. There lies your profit. (Not to mention your costs will be lower since iOS ha no fragmentation.)

> iOS has no fragmentation I think the correct statement would be iOS has "less" fragmentation. They still have fragmentation though. Not only through the devices but also the version of iOS running on the device. It can get pretty hairy trying to maintain support for multiple iOS devices with versions of even just 4.3 and up.

Actually I think the correct statement is that iOS has such little fragmentation (in comparison to Android) that it is effectively zero.

Every developer can safely target iOS 5. With Android it is still 2.3.

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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> iOS will maintain high price points What high price points? iOS devices (phones and tablets) are pretty much at the same price as the competition.

In the past, I'd agree with you. However, comparing Google's latest lineup with Apple's latest lineup tells a much different story (all 16GB): Nexus 4: $349; iPhone 5: $699 Nexus 7: $199; iPad Mini: $329 Nexus 10: $399; iPad: $499 Of course, Apple and Google aren't in the same business, but they are very much competitors.

Of course just comparing on price ignores some big differences.

Nexus 4 has no LTE. Nexus 7 has terrible build quality. Nexus 10 has nearly half the battery life.

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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> But Nexus 4 is on par with iPhone 5 (while being 2 times cheaper). Assuming you consider no LTE and a plastic body to be "on par".

I meant on par in overall user experience, not that they are equivalent in every feature. iPhone has shitty maps, no NFC, worse CPU/GPU (I think), no expandable notifications, etc.

iPhone has much, much better CPU/GPU than Nexus 4. Nearly twice as fast in most cases.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6426/ipad-4-gpu-performance-an...

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