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Re: Twilio looks better from afar

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Post by kevinburke »

oldgregg wrote: post #17

I really want to like twilio but it's MADNESS that you can't terminate calls over the internet. So you're saying EVERYONE in the company has to have skype numbers just so we can terminate calls?! I would love it if twilio client actually worked but the sound quality makes it worthless. Hopefully WebRTC will fix that but who knows how many more years that will be. Please please, just bite the bullet and build a deskto…

We also just launched WebRTC in beta. Sign up here: http://www.twilio.com/beta/webrtc or ping me - my email is in my profile.

If you haven't tried Twilio Client in a while I would encourage you to try again - the call quality has improved dramatically over the past nine months.

Re: Twilio looks better from afar

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Post by josh2600 »

robbiet480 wrote: post #20
josh2600 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're not all lies per se. Tropo/Voxeo also isn't failing :/, they just won Deutsche Telekom's Euro business. Voxeo doesn't always have the best marketing team, but they do have a lot of technical expertise. Their CTO Jose is one of the funniest people I've ever seen on a panel and he's a delight to converse with. I don't think any of the metaphors at play here hit the nail on the head. Voxeo is a large, lumbering…

I say "Tropo is failing" and I mean that their adoption rate is much lower then Twilio is. I'm sure Voxeo has tons of money to throw at Tropo until they run out. I haven't heard of 2600hz before, great name. I'll check it out!

Thanks! We're total phreaks over here :D.

Here's the Git link for our Kazoo project: https://github.com/2600hz/kazoo

Here's one of our APIs (conferencing): https://2600hz.atlassian.net/wiki/display/docs/Conferences+A...

We've got a client doing a very large number of simultaneous participants in a conference using this stack (in excess of 10k concurrent), so there's a lot of firepower here.

Also of interest to this community: the logic is written in Erlang :).

Let me know if you have any questions, we're in freenode at #2600hz

Re: Twilio looks better from afar

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Post by ryanwaggoner »

josh2600 wrote: post #3

Hello, So I have a slightly different take on this. (Disclaimer: I'm the community manager for 2600hz). I've always thought Twilio was trying to get acquired (their deals with AT&T and Microsoft seemed to imply a conversation was happening in this regard at the very least) but for a valuation north of $1B. My personal feeling is that you can't get a $1B valuation without Mobile and Twilio doesn't really do mobile in…

Is that chart leaked? Looks like just an outside estimate by Business Insider:

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-03-06/research/3112...

Re: Twilio looks better from afar

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Post by jdupree »

robbiet480 wrote: post #16

Yet another terrible assassination piece by Johnny Diggz, the CEO of Tropo, a quickly failing Twilio competitor. He has been a real dick since the early days and spreads lies and rumors about Twilio.

One correction, for others reading the comments - Diggz isn't the "CEO of Tropo", his title is Chief Evangelist for Voxeo Labs.

Re: Twilio looks better from afar

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Post by josh2600 »

ryanwaggoner wrote: post #23
josh2600 wrote: post #3

Hello, So I have a slightly different take on this. (Disclaimer: I'm the community manager for 2600hz). I've always thought Twilio was trying to get acquired (their deals with AT&T and Microsoft seemed to imply a conversation was happening in this regard at the very least) but for a valuation north of $1B. My personal feeling is that you can't get a $1B valuation without Mobile and Twilio doesn't really do mobile in…

Is that chart leaked? Looks like just an outside estimate by Business Insider: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-03-06/research/3112...

That's what I get for assuming blogs are correct. Thank you for posting the original article, I'll edit my post above to reflect this.

Thanks!!

Oops, too late to edit, guess my mistake has to rest in stone :/.

Re: Twilio looks better from afar

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Post by robbiet480 »

jdupree wrote: post #24
robbiet480 wrote: post #16

Yet another terrible assassination piece by Johnny Diggz, the CEO of Tropo, a quickly failing Twilio competitor. He has been a real dick since the early days and spreads lies and rumors about Twilio.

One correction, for others reading the comments - Diggz isn't the "CEO of Tropo", his title is Chief Evangelist for Voxeo Labs.

My apologies

Re: Twilio looks better from afar

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Post by evan_ »

lbarrow wrote: post #10

The gist of the post is that Twilio is losing money, losing talent, and getting desperate. I don't see why the author couldn't have just said that instead of picking a sexist blog post title -- he didn't even use the girlfriend metaphor beyond the headline. Edit: They've changed the title. Cool!

What was the title?

Re: Twilio looks better from afar

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Post by pla3rhat3r »

tehwebguy wrote: post #7
pla3rhat3r wrote: post #4

Still waiting to find the connection in the article about how Twilio is like the worst girlfriend you've ever had. Just seems like a jaded bias article from a competitor. :-/

Even if you take out the competitor factor the article was really about their opinion on Twilio's status as a company. I expected an article talking about supposedly bad cancelation or privacy policies, something like that. Pretty bad headline.

I see he changed the headline. Pretty funny. Not sure how this person has any insight on Twilio financials. It'd be interesting to get this person's own background posted on this space. I think it would pull back the veil of ignorance displayed in his blog post.

Re: Twilio looks better from afar

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Post by mpermar »

robbiet480 wrote: post #20
josh2600 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're not all lies per se. Tropo/Voxeo also isn't failing :/, they just won Deutsche Telekom's Euro business. Voxeo doesn't always have the best marketing team, but they do have a lot of technical expertise. Their CTO Jose is one of the funniest people I've ever seen on a panel and he's a delight to converse with. I don't think any of the metaphors at play here hit the nail on the head. Voxeo is a large, lumbering…

I say "Tropo is failing" and I mean that their adoption rate is much lower then Twilio is. I'm sure Voxeo has tons of money to throw at Tropo until they run out. I haven't heard of 2600hz before, great name. I'll check it out!

I am curious here. Is there any place to check Twilio or Tropo adoption rate? I'd love to get some numbers.

Re: Twilio looks better from afar

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Post by josephlord »

jdupree wrote: post #15
josephlord wrote: post #14

I'm looking at Twillio for a possible future project and this just prompted me to look at Voxeo which I hadn't heard of. The Voxeo website just doesn't work for me like the Twilio one does, it lacks an pricing information (that I could find quickly) and even the developer section is mostly buzzword filled non-information. The Twilio site gives you pricing information up front and the developer pages show you the APIs…

Were you looking at voxeo.com or tropo.com? tropo.com is the site for the developer API similar to Twilio, and has a documentation and pricing page linked right on the front page.

That looks much more like it! Will look further.
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