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The dead Internet is not a theory anymore

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Re: The dead Internet is not a theory anymore

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The funny thing about the LinkedIn post is that the parody is dead-on as to the kind of mindless slop a human on LI would post. LinkedIn was the Dead Internet before LLMs were even a thing. And I guess AI doesn't even have to be posting everything for Dead Internet Theory to hold, it just has to be the default perception in order to cause everything to be treated skeptically.

I think I'll just take up blacksmithing.

Re: The dead Internet is not a theory anymore

#32
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I only see two outcomes for this problem : an internet of verified identities (start by uploading your ID card). Or a paid internet, where it doesn't matter who you are, but since you're going to pay for that email or that reddit account, the probability that it's AI spam is greatly reduced. And i'm looking forward to none of them.

Honestly the $10 barrier to SomethingAwful back in the day (and I guess now since it’s still around) definitely made a huge difference. I hate the idea of subscribing to a site like HN or Reddit… but one time $10 to post? I’d accept that if it meant less bots.

Given how easy it was to get banned, the :tenbux: were almost like a subscription.

Re: The dead Internet is not a theory anymore

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do you think small, invite-only communities will end up being the last holdout for genuine human conversation online? or will bots eventually infiltrate those too?

Lobsters is like that, basically a ghost town compared to Reddit. If you block engagement, you will succeed.

Re: The dead Internet is not a theory anymore

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Someone, somewhere, salivating at the idea of combining both ideas. A paid for digital ID service that you can use as authentication for the web. Actually, if I'm thinking about it. Social Media platforms already started this with the paid blue badge for verification, and it's also monthly subscription. But it's for their respective platform only, not universal.

Would that work though? Unless it checks your pulse every 30 minutes I don't see how that would make it better. Bots would use stolen IDs for that. It would only contain it at a smaller scale probably

It would have to integrate with some kind of official government ID, so that there can be extremely serious criminal penalties for ID theft. But that's something for the next republic, because the current one's justice system is unlikely to be up to the task.

Re: The dead Internet is not a theory anymore

#35

Hey it’s what executives want. Fake everything. Slop and robots everywhere. Have at it, I say. Maybe then people will go outside again

My household just bought The Brick to start taking control of our phones and online usage. We've been very online for 15+ years but are hoping to break the addiction cycle by simply blocking our devices from access. The timing feels right, mostly because sites like Instagram and Reddit are too braindead and spam+ad heavy these days. The executives and shareholders' desire for profits have already killed two of my biggest online pastimes.

Re: The dead Internet is not a theory anymore

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post #5

I only see two outcomes for this problem : an internet of verified identities (start by uploading your ID card). Or a paid internet, where it doesn't matter who you are, but since you're going to pay for that email or that reddit account, the probability that it's AI spam is greatly reduced. And i'm looking forward to none of them.

Friend of a friend verification could side-step that, if there is a good way to penalize bad actors willing to violate the principle.

Re: The dead Internet is not a theory anymore

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post #5

I only see two outcomes for this problem : an internet of verified identities (start by uploading your ID card). Or a paid internet, where it doesn't matter who you are, but since you're going to pay for that email or that reddit account, the probability that it's AI spam is greatly reduced. And i'm looking forward to none of them.

I want cool cryptography where I can, e.g. verify where I'm writing from and what my age is without giving away any other information.

Or if I want, I can verify that I'm myself, and eschew anonymity, and certain platforms should only accept contributions from people who don't hide their identity.

Everyone knows who you are in the town square.

Re: The dead Internet is not a theory anymore

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly the $10 barrier to SomethingAwful back in the day (and I guess now since it’s still around) definitely made a huge difference. I hate the idea of subscribing to a site like HN or Reddit… but one time $10 to post? I’d accept that if it meant less bots.

A $10 one time not-an-asshole fee is totally reasonable. History also shows you can take a $10 fee and maintain quality on SomethingAwful for quite some time.

Didn't that fee allowed to change account names of other users or something like that?

Re: The dead Internet is not a theory anymore

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly the $10 barrier to SomethingAwful back in the day (and I guess now since it’s still around) definitely made a huge difference. I hate the idea of subscribing to a site like HN or Reddit… but one time $10 to post? I’d accept that if it meant less bots.

It's a beautiful system. And if you were a dipshit and got banned, you paid another $10 and hopefully learned your lesson.

Exponential backoff: second time is $100 etc.
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