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Re: Google closes deal to acquire Wiz

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Congrats to to the Wiz team. Wiz is amazing. But, ugh, joining Google will result in less competition and all that entails. Not great for customers. It's a pity going public isn't worth it anymore.

> It's a pity going public isn't worth it anymore.

Israeli VCs tend to be uninterested in IPOs in general - too much of an operational headache and it's difficult to exit a position quickly.

In most cases an IPO isn't worth it for founders because an IPO means you lose operational control. It's basically the "Rich versus Kings" dichotomy [0].

Edit: can't reply

> you can control the share allocations going into an IPO to give you solid voting power

Investors do not like that - they want some degree of operational control in order to right the ship if needed.

In the early 2010s, IPOs like Tesla and Facebook were on terms that gave outside investors little control on operations and that's why Musk and even Zuckerberg to a certain extent can choose to reorient to a new boondoggle with little-to-no investor pushback.

In 2026 if you want to IPO, it will be on the terms of JPMC, GS, etc who are underwriting the IPO.

In a private company, it's easier for an investor to offload or get bought out of their position if the founder wants to maintain operational control.

> While you’re accountable to a board of directors and theoretically accountable to stockholders, in reality management often runs the show

In publicly listed companies, it is magnitudes more difficult to build a board that is aligned with you at a personal level versus in a private company because both the board and strategic shareholders will act as checks against you.

> If you’re acquired, you’re giving up ownership and you tend to lose operational control unless you have agreements in place that say otherwise

An acquisition happens when both the founders and investors want to exit, and has less operational overhead and due dilligence versus going thru the process of an IPO in the US.

> This is counterintuitive to me

Well, that's the reality. This is why Stripe, Databricks, and others have remained private for so long despite having hit IPO-level metrics years ago. If you're already generating high 9 to low 10 figures a year in revenue, you can remain private indefinetly and as a founder you would be able to give yourself a compensation package comparable to a public company, but with much less oversight and stress.

> Interesting, why is this more true of Israeli VC's as opposed to VC's in other markets

Significantly less capital.

"Big" funds like YL Ventures, Cyberstarts, and JVP only have an AUM of $800M, $1.4B, and $1.9B respectively.

And if you were going to IPO in the US anyhow, why would you even invest in an Israeli fund, which wouldn't have enough people with experience for an IPO.

And the handful of Israeli IPOs that happened like SentinelOne or CyberArk weren't that successful.

[0] - https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/item.aspx?num=38550

Re: Google closes deal to acquire Wiz

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wiz customer here, when fully implemented it provides an incredibly detailed and comprehensive view of your infrastructure. I'm curious how much of that information is going to pass between Wiz and Google Cloud product/sales. It's effectively x-ray vision into some huge workloads running on their competitors.

Is this like Darktrace? Apparently the cybersec bigwigs at our company love it, but for me I have to write a detailed explaination why another 'incident report' the clueless cybersecurity guys keep bothering me with is actually nonsense.

Nope. Darktrace is crap verging on fraud. Wiz actually solves tangible CSPM and runtime issues.

Re: Google closes deal to acquire Wiz

#44
post #31
post #16

Wiz joins Waze & Waymo.. there's something suspicious with the letter W here :)

Wiz and Waze are both Israeli companies. Not that suspicious, I think it probably just sounds better in Hebrew.

Wix too. Very interesting that founders of Waze and Wix have Unit 8200 pedigree and Wiz co-founder was part of an elite recruitment program in the IDF. On account of the mandatory draft, it was bound to happen but those three companies have very similar names as well.

Re: Google closes deal to acquire Wiz

#45
post #24

Congrats to to the Wiz team. Wiz is amazing. But, ugh, joining Google will result in less competition and all that entails. Not great for customers. It's a pity going public isn't worth it anymore.

> will result in less competition

The system working as intended.

“Competition is for losers” - Peter Thiel

Re: Google closes deal to acquire Wiz

#46
post #44
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wiz and Waze are both Israeli companies. Not that suspicious, I think it probably just sounds better in Hebrew.

Wix too. Very interesting that founders of Waze and Wix have Unit 8200 pedigree and Wiz co-founder was part of an elite recruitment program in the IDF. On account of the mandatory draft, it was bound to happen but those three companies have very similar names as well.

Everyone in Israel who is entrepreneurial tries to self-select into 8200 - it's the equivalent of American high schoolers who want to enter VC and tech entrepreneurship targeting CS@Stanford.

In Israel, the university you attended matters less than the unit you served. For example, if you want to become a senior politician, you join Sayeret Matkal and if you want to become an academic you end up in Talpiot (which the founders of Wiz are alums of).

8200s success is largely due to a couple early exits by 8200 alums (Gili Raanan, Nir Zuk, Shlomo Kramer) who were biased in recruiting from their unit. 8200 alums aren't better or worse than other Israelis - they just have a better network.

And Israel has multiple SIGINT and offensive/defensive cybersecurity units, all of whom created similar networks as well.

Re: Google closes deal to acquire Wiz

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The interesting part is that Wiz built its success largely on being cloud-agnostic. If Google keeps it that way, it becomes a strategic window into AWS and Azure workloads.

If they don’t, they risk destroying the very advantage that made Wiz valuable in the first place.

Re: Google closes deal to acquire Wiz

#49
post #7

I don't understand Google's play here. Does it want Wiz to be a unique offer for GCP customers? or they will keep it cloud agnostic?

Probably a diversification play and a play to see out bigger contracts. If you've worked in the FEDRamp space, you may be aware that Wiz (last a checked, a year or so ago) is one of the few and possibly ownly player certified to operate in FedRAMP Medium/High deployments operating with the technology it does (eBPF instrumentation).

Google has really been expanding into DoD lately. I think they're realizing it's a large part of why AWS is so big and Azure is still alive.
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