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Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by lostmsu »

tuesdaynight wrote: post #107
lostmsu wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I said in another thread $650 HP OmniBook 5 on Ryzen is faster, more RAM, feels great to use, and I don't have to deal with MacOS!

IMO, there's nothing comparable to MacBook Air in its price range if you are an average user. Neo is even better in that aspect. The model you cited sounds better if you are planning to use Linux and are computer literate. But if you just want something that is good (not perfect) at everything usual, a MacBook is a no-brainer.

I don't think MacOS is better than Windows, so I disagree with that take.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by lostmsu »

commandersaki wrote: post #108
lostmsu wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.staples.com/hp-omnibook-5-16-2k-laptop-copilot-p... I own one. It lives long enough not to get bothered by charging.

Looked up more info on this laptop, my cursory thoughts: plastic chassis: gross. keyboard with a numberpad: yuck no inverted-T for arrow keys: yuck limited size trackpad, not to mention a PC trackpad: yuck display looks good and is matte: nice fans: gross usb-c (charging) port is not the first port in the array: yuck supplied charger brick: yuck, why not something a bit more modern But at least it seems to have compa…

> plastic chassis: gross.

I don't care, it holds, it is not slippery (a huge problem with my current phone with metal body). What exactly is better with metal?

> keyboard with a numberpad: yuck

I would prefer one without, but that's just a matter of preference here. The layout is good. In fact, it's the keyboard that mostly makes me feel good whenever I use this laptop.

> inverted-T for arrow keys: yuck

In theory I agree, but for some reason that did not feel problematic on this particular keyboard.

> limited size trackpad

?

> not to mention a PC trackpad

To each their own

> fans: gross

Never heard them, not even sure they are there.

> usb-c (charging) port is not the first port in the array

Sounds like a minor issue

> supplied charger brick: yuck, why not something a bit more modern

I prefer "bricks" on the wire to "bricks" on the plug like Apple does because it does not take 10 slots on a power strip.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by alwillis »

jackhalford wrote: post #2

> Given Apple's historically very premium pricing, launching such an affordable product is certainly a shock to the entire market No? Apple has been delivering way cheaper laptops ever since M1, this one is just even cheaper. I thought PC execs were asleep at the wheel but not this bad.

> Apple has been delivering way cheaper laptops ever since M1

I wouldn’t "way cheaper".

A baseline Neo with 256GB SSD is $599 vs the first M1 MacBook Air with 256GB SSD was $999 ($1,251.09 in 2026 dollars)

A Neo with 512GB SSD is $699 vs the M1 MacBook Air with 512GB SSD was $1249--that's $1,568.38 in 2026 dollars.

So this is a big deal; the Neo is the first Apple Silicon MacBook where the starting price is less than $999.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by franktankbank »

nubinetwork wrote: post #49
VerifiedReports wrote: post #44

Windows is such an offensive, defect-ridden pile of shit now that every PC maker should be blaming Microsoft for their inability to compete with the Neo. I bought my parents Asus laptops years ago, and can't wait to replace them with a Neo. Microsoft has spurned and scorned users. Now it's time for computer makers to push back and reject its shit. I'd love to see a consortium of computer makers come together to refin…

Dell has been pushing Linux for like 20 years? I don't remember which distro, probably fedora or ubuntu...

I got an xps long time back that had the option to pay extra for ubuntu. I'm not going to pay to plug in a usb and I also get the joy of erasing a windows install from the face of this earth.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by FeloniousHam »

Carstairs wrote: post #116
pragmatic wrote: post #104

But you’re stuck with MacOS. I can’t stand it and every update makes it worse. Been running popos abs everything I can and it’s petty nice. Installed it on a new LG Gram and everything works including fingerprint reader. Is my favorite laptop and my old Mac sits gathering dust,

Yeah I got one from work. I was quite excited to get one as macos is supposed to be a paragon of design but after using it I'm so glad I didn't spend my own money on it as it's been a total disappointment. There isn't a day that goes by that I don't want to launch it off the roof.

I use it everyday, I love it. Native unix, great apps and ecosystem.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by dagmx »

justsomehnguy wrote: post #29
dagmx wrote: post #5

I was watching this video and it’s pretty impressive what can be done on this spec machine. https://youtu.be/d-VOt9559Gk?si=tYlDstnaxtQWoJ88 He opens 50+ apps at once while working in Final Cut and Lightroom. Obviously anyone doing those full time would benefit from more resources but I think this is going to be enough for a big chunk of the population, and will be more appealing than the windows alternatives.

I still remember how Apple fans run around singing praises what their 8GB M1 absolutely kicked ass of Intel Macs with 16GB (and even more). Only to quietly replace them with a model with more RAM next year or some even way earlier than that. I can open even 500 apps on any laptop. This is what swap for. But with only 8GB you are getting into the swap territory very fast because you need almost half of it for the OS a…

More RAM is better. But doesn’t negate that it’s still very usable. Did you even bother to watch the video for responsiveness before commenting? Also it was a couple years after the transition to arm that Apple bumped the minimum RAM they shipped their laptops with.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by scuff3d »

red-iron-pine wrote: post #114
scuff3d wrote: post #3

"Of course, it's not that it cannot do all the work, but considering user experience and those hardware limitations, the experience, I think, differs significantly from mainstream products..." I worked in retail for a decade, a lot of that was selling computers. The vast majority of what people buy computers for could be done a toaster. You don't exactly need top end specs to browse the internet, reply to emails, and…

the average user could probably do most of their computing on a $150 cell phone and a raspberry pi 4. gaming is a different beast, but there are xboxes, ps5s, steam boxen, etc.

Exactly. That's why the comment was seemed arranged to me.

For the most part, there's gamers/editors and a few other groups who need a lot of horsepower. They're generally gonna have decent hardware. Then there's everyone else, who wouldn't notice a difference regardless of hardware (to a point). There just isn't a whole lot of middle ground.

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