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Unfortunately I think the way we are going is to treat everyone as children by default, though.
So the UK is now China it seems. What a shining light for democracy and justice. There is no way this will be abused by petty little tyrant minister right?
The UK already arrests more than 1,000 a month people for online "hate speech". Higher than the official numbers for China, whatever those are worth. They'll probably reach the unofficial, real number soon enough. https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/police-make-30-arr...
"The acts make it illegal to cause distress by sending “grossly offensive” messages or sharing content of an “indecent, obscene or menacing character” on an electronic communications network."
Offensive messages cover a lot of contexts and don't sound as if they are necessarily hate speech.
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The UK already arrests more than 1,000 a month people for online "hate speech". Higher than the official numbers for China, whatever those are worth. They'll probably reach the unofficial, real number soon enough. https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/police-make-30-arr...
Can you give some examples of the speech the UK arrests people for?
"Mass deportations, now, set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards for all I care, if that makes me a racist, so be it".
Racist maybe, although she doesn't seem to care about race.
Offensive, yeah, seems that it could be interpreted as offensive, but thats not technically illegal (the high court has repeatedly affirmed to right to be offensive).
Inciting violence (the offense she was convicted of) no, not at all, she was stating her political opinion and her belief that the lives of immigrants is worth less than british children.
Although people will point out she admitted guilt, but the threat of significant pre-trail imprisonment was used a lot at this time to force guilty pleas.
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Can you give some examples of the speech the UK arrests people for?
https://www.the-independent.com/news/uk/home-news/wales-engl... You can get arrested for grossly offensive (completely subjective). Also they have a category called non-crime hate incidents (Hello Kafka) where they come to "intimidate" you without any charges being filed.
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Well, UK is just one small part of Europe. You probably also confuse Europe and the EU.
Oh, no, not that Europe. You were of course talking about the Europe with Spain (oh wait, La Liga has a cloudflare kill switch). You were of course talking about the Europe with Italy (oh wait, the Piracy Shield). You were of course talking about the Europe with Turkyie (oh wait, ...
If they cared about children they'd just ban phones for children. Would be dead easy to enforce and wouldn't have any effect on the rights of adults. Unfortunately I think the way we are going is to treat everyone as children by default, though.
By design.
Beyond my ISP I'm virtually anonymous unless I log in. If it's blocked at the network level I cannot login. If it's not blocked by the network, then it doesn't know exactly which individual is using my network connection. Theoretically they could put an interstitial page to check credentials but we'd just end up sharing the login rather than sharing all our personal details in separate accounts, or more likely I'd just not bother and accept the 'child' experience.
If I lose access to social media so be it. All that will do is change the landscape as the diaspora find a new uncensored social media.
This all falls apart when it affects genuine work, then it's already too late. The only real option at this point is VPN.
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The UK already arrests more than 1,000 a month people for online "hate speech". Higher than the official numbers for China, whatever those are worth. They'll probably reach the unofficial, real number soon enough. https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/police-make-30-arr...
Can you give some examples of the speech the UK arrests people for?
Maxie Allen and Rosalind Levine "Parents arrested for complaining about school in WhatsApp group": https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/parents-arre...
Chelsea Russell, "a 19-year-old woman from Liverpool, was sentenced to an eight-week community order, a curfew from 8 p.m. to 8 a.m., and an electronic ankle tag after being found guilty of sending a grossly offensive message by posting rap lyrics on her Instagram account." The lyrics were in homage to her friend who had died and this was their favourite song. https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/woman-wh...
Jamie Michael, Royal Marine, expressing unhappiness with mass-immigration https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c75zke1l7ylo
Sam Melia, two years for distributing stickers saying “We will be a minority in our homeland by 2066”, “Mass immigration is white genocide”, “intolerance is a virtue”: https://www.gbnews.com/news/sam-melia-free-speech-activists-...
Some of these people might be saying unpalatable things, but criminalising them or arresting them is having a huge effect on free speech. Once we give these rights away, they can and will be used any other government that gets in power, and at some point there will be one you don't agree with. These rights are hard won, and easily lost.
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Well, UK is just one small part of Europe. You probably also confuse Europe and the EU.
Oh, no, not that Europe. You were of course talking about the Europe with Spain (oh wait, La Liga has a cloudflare kill switch). You were of course talking about the Europe with Italy (oh wait, the Piracy Shield). You were of course talking about the Europe with Turkyie (oh wait, ...
If they cared about children they'd just ban phones for children. Would be dead easy to enforce and wouldn't have any effect on the rights of adults. Unfortunately I think the way we are going is to treat everyone as children by default, though.
Make it make sense.