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Can we be literal? It means peace through using superior firepower to kill people.
Sure, but it's not equating the states of war and peace, but asserting that war is a method for achieving peace, presumably when everyone on the other side is incapable or undesirous of attacking or threatening same.
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Scott took it too literally. See also how the broader rationalist community took issue with Sam Kriss for inventing a not-obviously-fake historical figure. The biggest takeaway for me is that you shouldn't expect to succeed as a manager by meeting (or exceeding) KPIs. It's about as effective as being a "nice guy" and expecting intimacy in return. The KPIs are there for assigning blame, not for identifying key personn…
Just curious what’s the definition of “success” here? Getting promoted and getting a better compensation?
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
Scott took it too literally. See also how the broader rationalist community took issue with Sam Kriss for inventing a not-obviously-fake historical figure. The biggest takeaway for me is that you shouldn't expect to succeed as a manager by meeting (or exceeding) KPIs. It's about as effective as being a "nice guy" and expecting intimacy in return. The KPIs are there for assigning blame, not for identifying key personn…
> Scott took it too literally He does say in section (I): > I was particularly told to “take it as literally as possible”
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Sure, but it's not equating the states of war and peace, but asserting that war is a method for achieving peace, presumably when everyone on the other side is incapable or undesirous of attacking or threatening same.
Are we forgetting the context of who started the war?
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Are you seriously equating the modern office and work, where, you know, you can go home after, to life as a slave on a plantation? Sure, analogies can have factors at different scales but the scales come into the equation when the factor is the axis we are analyzing. Is your issue that life requires action to maintain it? Do you believe no work is required at all in life? The idea that work is like slavery is deep wh…
Maybe it is about agency. If you have no agency, aren't you a slave? If your boss is expecting a blowjob or will fire you, is that not pretty bad? I didn't know that American Slavery was the benchmark by which we can use that word. If I'm not literally being whipped I can't use that word now? How about servitude? Subjugation? Yoked? What is acceptable now?
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Is the use of "literally" here, and the use of quotes, meant to be taken literally (as in, he literally said this)? Or is this the sense of "literally" which actually means "figuratively"?
A post to the Truth Social account for Donald Trump included: "The heavy and pinpoint bombing, however, will continue, uninterrupted throughout the week or, as long as necessary to achieve our objective of PEACE THROUGHOUT THE MIDDLE EAST AND, INDEED, THE WORLD!" That's the closest thing I'm finding. Not seeing reporting that he literally said "war is peace".
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Maybe it is about agency. If you have no agency, aren't you a slave? If your boss is expecting a blowjob or will fire you, is that not pretty bad? I didn't know that American Slavery was the benchmark by which we can use that word. If I'm not literally being whipped I can't use that word now? How about servitude? Subjugation? Yoked? What is acceptable now?
Okay if not American Slavery what's your benchmark? Having to do things you don't want? I'm being serious. You use extreme language and hyperbole so it's hard to take you seriously. Do you think your situation is akin to like, someone being held hostage in a call center and forced to scam people? Where is the line, in your mind?
You are objecting to using the word 'slave' as a descriptor, except in extreme cases.
But the term slave is often used in culture for a lot of things.
Being a 'slave to your addictions', 'a slave to your desires', 'an office slave', 'wage slave'. etc.... I'll spare you a list of hundreds of examples.
I think since you are the one objecting, then you draw the line.
I tend to think it does hinge on 'agency'. If you are trapped. But, sure, being trapped in an office today, is not as painful as being trapped as a slave in the US south. Does that mean the office worker should just shut up and deal with it, it is comfortable enough?
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Doing hard things is tautologically good.
Bullshit. Many things are hard because they shouldn't be done and systems have evolved to make the thing hard for good reason.
There are plenty of things in the world that are hard only because they’ve been made difficult by people who either don’t want them done, don’t understand, or greatly benefit from their not being done, but would be a fantastic idea to do.
Such as get a new coffee maker for our office, but it would take two years, multiple committees, and an electrical study in order to do so. No i am not kidding