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Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by Mawr »

frankacter wrote: post #7

I’m a bit confused about who this article is really for. The MacBook Neo starts at $600 so when I read: “MacBook Neo is built on an iPhone chip—the A18 Pro. It’s far less capable of running intensive tasks than any of Apple’s M‑series chips or any moderately powered Intel or AMD processor.” and that: “It’s merely the right kind of performance for anybody who wants to browse the internet or stream video.” ...at this p…

> ...at this price point there are plenty of alternatives for laptops with better performance and specs.

Laughable. Seriously, how long has it been since the M1 Air dropped? And we're still this clueless?

> For example, you can get a 15.6" Ryzen 7 5700U laptop with 32GB RAM and a 1TB SSD for less than the “unbeatable” price of the Neo:

Awesome spec dump. Now, what's the real life usage battery life of that laptop like? Oh? Yeah, thought so.

Nobody buys a list of specs, they buy a set of capabilities. And the Neo is capable of supporting normal usage for 12h+ on battery. Go ahead and link me some alternative laptops that can do that, with comparable performance of course — which is on par or better than the original M1 Air mind you.

Killer move by Apple, and I'm shocked there's still so much ignorance around.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by beAbU »

cromka wrote: post #69

Just imagine what Apple would do to the market if they also offered a full Linux support, but not Windows... They'd probably own some 70% of Linux market outright and also double its overall size overnight.

If apple came out with their own linux distro, with open drivers and a mainline kernel... A girl can dream!

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by greatgib »

smackeyacky wrote: post #37

My daughter just ordered one of these. She’s a student (not stem) and her ancient 8Gb MacBook Air with an intel processor was still serving well but the battery has become unuseable and her keyboard is becoming flaky. The Neo is such a perfect replacement and easier than fixing the Air.

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Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by greatgib »

nubinetwork wrote: post #49
VerifiedReports wrote: post #44

Windows is such an offensive, defect-ridden pile of shit now that every PC maker should be blaming Microsoft for their inability to compete with the Neo. I bought my parents Asus laptops years ago, and can't wait to replace them with a Neo. Microsoft has spurned and scorned users. Now it's time for computer makers to push back and reject its shit. I'd love to see a consortium of computer makers come together to refin…

Dell has been pushing Linux for like 20 years? I don't remember which distro, probably fedora or ubuntu...

They have a very limited set of choices. I would have bought more if you were not too limited in term of choice in their inventory.

At some point the XPS 13 dev edition was the almost perfect laptop. Then they ruined it with the following generations of it.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by fragmede »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #68
VerifiedReports wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More importantly, they need to find an alternative to Windows. A $10,000 computer wouldn't fix that dogshit.

There's really nothing in between. If ChromeOS would have been an alternative, maybe more Chromebooks would have been sold. It comes down to Microsoft not doubling down on "let's make Windows as annoying as possible" (with ads, with telemetry that can't be turned off).

Depends what you want to do. ChromeOS is pretty great at certain things.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by tim333 »

lm28469 wrote: post #62
bdbdbdb wrote: post #48

600 is a bargain for a MacBook, but I can't see the public windows users switching en masse. Most people who buy cheap windows laptops do so because 1) they need to replace a broken laptop and want to pay the lowest amount possible 2) they don't want to learn some new thing 600 might seem budget, but it's out of budget for most people. And my guess is PC manufacturers will retaliate against this by cutting prices jus…

> 600 might seem budget, but it's out of budget for most people. Out of budget for my parents but I'll pay the difference myself. It's just painful to see them use their pile of shit $300 laptop that can barely open a text editor, sounds like a jet engine and has about 45 minutes of battery life. The only haptic feedback they get if the entire fucking thing creaking as soon as you lightly touch it. They've been throu…

That's an important point - the been through 5 of them. The cost or running a $600 mac is probably similar to running $300 pc laptops that pack up.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by tim333 »

pjmlp wrote: post #15

All these PC can't compete reviews are based on US prices, outside it is ridiculous expensive for a 8 GB laptop.

I've had an 8GB M1 since they came out and had almost no problems with memory shortage. The only thing is Firefox sometimes gets in a loop and takes up 20GB+ doing nothing much and you have to close it but that's not really the laptop's fault. You can have programs use >8GB because it swaps to the SSD very well.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by pjmlp »

beAbU wrote: post #73
cromka wrote: post #69

Just imagine what Apple would do to the market if they also offered a full Linux support, but not Windows... They'd probably own some 70% of Linux market outright and also double its overall size overnight.

If apple came out with their own linux distro, with open drivers and a mainline kernel... A girl can dream!

This path is already taken and it didn't sell Apple hardware in masses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MkLinux

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by pjmlp »

cromka wrote: post #69

Just imagine what Apple would do to the market if they also offered a full Linux support, but not Windows... They'd probably own some 70% of Linux market outright and also double its overall size overnight.

Don't need to imagine, it did not take off, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MkLinux

> Reception was mixed, focusing on the difficult installation process and the significant performance costs of the Mach kernel. Reviewers noted its potential as a "Unix killer", but that it required users to abandon the user-friendly Macintosh experience for a pure Linux environment.

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