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YouTube ads are about to get even longer and they'll be unskippable

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Re: YouTube ads are about to get even longer and they'll be unskippable

#41

Has anyone ever actually purchased anything because you saw an ad for it?

The problem is, you don't realise that you did.

One day you'll need to buy something outside your sphere of knowledge; a washing machine, drain cleaner, car tyres, whatever. The seeds of biased selection have already been implanted by years of conditioning.

Re: YouTube ads are about to get even longer and they'll be unskippable

#42
post #22

Why are people even so dumb to use TV apps for a fucking TV? Just connect a "computer" to the TV and play YouTube with a mouse and KB and with Brave and Sponsor Block. If they ban adblockers and Sponsor Block there will be AI solutions that let you cut the ads out in the future. Nobody should use shitty TV apps. It's like more convenient and practical to have some kind of PC like device attached to the TV for 100 oth…

Most people don't care. What you're talking about is way more work than 99% of people want to put in. They have a TV, it has a youtube button on it. They click, they watch. Anything else is irrelevant.

Re: YouTube ads are about to get even longer and they'll be unskippable

#43
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Privacy rights. Google’s ad surveillance eventually feeds ICE and its ilk, so I’ll not willingly reward this behavior.

>Google’s ad surveillance eventually feeds ICE and its ilk Is this a prediction about what might happen or a claim about what's happening right now? Also, there's plenty of reasons to object to government/adtech surveillance, but "youtube ads are going to help ICE deport people" is probably the worse examples that I can think of.

DHS has been very upfront about the fact that they purchase pretty much all the data they can get, including from ad networks, in order to keeps records on and track people.

Re: YouTube ads are about to get even longer and they'll be unskippable

#44

I just pay for YT Premium. I’m genuinely curious why that option is so controversial? Happy to get people’s thoughts. So I never see any ads and I feel like I get enough value for what I pay. It even helps me skip in-content ads with a single click.

Where did you get the impression that it's controversial to pay for YT Premium? Most threads I've seen on this topic are composed of roughly half of the comments endorsing YT Premium, while the other half endorse adblocking from a privacy/autonomy perspective similar to the opening paragraph of the uBlock Origin manifesto [1]. What minor controversy I have seen is a small minority that argue either 1. You shouldn't p…

Quite a few of those threads have a sizable contingent of people who say they would pay for YT Premium if it removed all ads but since it only removes ads that YouTube puts in the videos they will still see any endorsements or promotions of sponsor's products that were put in by the content creator it doesn't really work.

Re: YouTube ads are about to get even longer and they'll be unskippable

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also pay for yt premium. Most people do not seem to like pay to play, pay to “win”, etc and this falls either very close or in that category. The long term economics seem questionable to me. Google can always turn up the heat a bit more with ads, charge more for the ads, play more of them, etc when they need to be more profitable. The only way they make more from premium subscribers is charging more and they will l…

> I’m afraid ultimately if premium becomes too large of a user base Google would need to turn it into an “ad-lite” experience I wouldn't hesitate to cancel my subscription and stop using the platform at that point. Life can go on without YouTube.

Or you could move on to the premium+ package, which costs more, but has no ads (yet).

Re: YouTube ads are about to get even longer and they'll be unskippable

#46
There are already minutes of unskippable ads when watching YouTube on a device like an Apple TV. And they come fast and furious, as bad as or worse than network TV.

And the best part is that many of the ads that show up are literally scams. YouTube has no ad standards that I can tell.

Re: YouTube ads are about to get even longer and they'll be unskippable

#47
post #22

Why are people even so dumb to use TV apps for a fucking TV? Just connect a "computer" to the TV and play YouTube with a mouse and KB and with Brave and Sponsor Block. If they ban adblockers and Sponsor Block there will be AI solutions that let you cut the ads out in the future. Nobody should use shitty TV apps. It's like more convenient and practical to have some kind of PC like device attached to the TV for 100 oth…

Lmao, this is an extremely HN post. 10/10 on the HN scale.

Re: YouTube ads are about to get even longer and they'll be unskippable

#48
Note that this is talking about ads when you watch via their TV app, not when you watch on your computer in an ordinary browser.

The ad experience in the browser is interesting. I've watched several videos today with no ad blocking and have only seen a couple of ads which were skippable after 5 seconds.

For the last year I've doing this on YouTube.

• I start the day with ad blocking turned off.

• As long as all the ads I get are skippable after 5 seconds, and any ads that are not pre-roll ads are not too close to the previous ad, I just skip and my annoyance level stays low. I get annoyed if the ads during the content are not well spread out.

• If they put in a non-skippable ad but it is close to 5 seconds (6 seconds and 15 seconds seem to be the two shortest lengths for non-skippable ads) and it is not followed immediately by another ad I treat it like a 5 second skippable ad.

• If a 6 second non-skippable ad is followed immediately by a skippable after 5 seconds ad, my annoyance level rises some. If they only do this a couple times in a day I'll probably let it slide.

• Any 15 second or more non-skippable ad raises my annoyance level a lot.

• If my annoyance level gets too high, by either (1) a 15+ second non-skippable ad or (2) too many of those things that are annoying but not as annoying then ad blocking gets turned on any open YouTube tabs get refreshed so it will apply to them.

• Any ad they show me that is actually relevant and useful is not counted when evaluating annoyance level. This only happens rarely.

I haven't kept stats but it definitely feels like over the first couple of months of doing this they changed the ad lengths, intervals, and how often they show me non-skippable ads in a way that avoids annoying me enough to turn on ad blocking. I now sometimes go over a week without turning on the ad blocker.

Re: YouTube ads are about to get even longer and they'll be unskippable

#50
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YT Premium is my favorite monthly subscription - probably the highest value software that I pay for.

It is very high value. I would be happy to pay even more for an experience without AI slop masquerading as something else, and obviously fake or misleading news sources. If Youtube or Meta spent a fraction of the effort identifying credibility as they do predicting user likes, they could do a passable job. I would especially like credible sources that express coherent viewpoints less correlated with mine. Perhaps eve…

Try skipvids.com it removes most of the ai slop bs
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