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Elon Musk’s Mission to Mars

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Re: Elon Musk’s Mission to Mars

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Try applying and find out. You have nothing to lose but a little time.

I won't be in a position to apply for another two years, but if I thought there was even a chance of being accepted there're things I could do in the meantime to make myself a much more attractive applicant.

If you want potentially revolutionary, reusable space projects with some ninja materials science, there is a project rather closer to home for you, which you might be interested in:

www.reactionengines.co.uk

Re: Elon Musk’s Mission to Mars

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Apologies for being somewhat off-topic, but does anybody know if there are citizenship requirements for working at a place like SpaceX? I have a solid background in materials science and metallurgy from a world-class university, and find what Musk is doing very inspirational. After I finish my PhD, I'd love to be a part of it, but I'm British and I know with some companies in the industry there're citizenship require…

I think the limitation is actually put in place by the US government because rocket technology is basically weapons technology. I may be wrong about that though.

Re: Elon Musk’s Mission to Mars

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There's one interesting quote in the article: Musk: I can’t tell you much. We have essentially no patents in SpaceX. Our primary long-term competition is in China—if we published patents, it would be farcical, because the Chinese would just use them as a recipe book. If your process/ideas are sufficiently complex, it reduces competition if you don't file a patent.

It's actually worse than that. Tech companies routinely use a combination of patents, trade secrets and copyright to make the shared knowledge (patents) basically useless but an exceptionally good defensive and offensive weapon. I recall this came up with Intel and other companies reverse-engineering the Netburst bus. EDIT: removed point about first-to-file as prior art would largely invalidate such attempts beyond a…

First to file doesn't work like that. Their patent would be struck down on prior art if they ever tried to use it.

Re: Elon Musk’s Mission to Mars

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There's one interesting quote in the article: Musk: I can’t tell you much. We have essentially no patents in SpaceX. Our primary long-term competition is in China—if we published patents, it would be farcical, because the Chinese would just use them as a recipe book. If your process/ideas are sufficiently complex, it reduces competition if you don't file a patent.

Patents aren't my area of expertise. That said absurdity in the patent system isn't limited to the software world. This is second-hand info from someone who's had to file these patents, but I've heard you can get patents on metal alloys providing that you can state the exact reason why that specific alloy composition gives the property you desire. If a competitor then proves that the property is a consequence of some other effect, your patent is invalidated. So there's not much incentive to patent these things if keeping it a trade secret is a more viable alternative.

It's frustrating when you're working on a problem you're 90% sure a better funded industry player has already solved. Maybe they solved it through trial and error, without needing or wanting to understand the fundamental science behind it, but you then have to re-discover their results before you can even make progress in the understanding. But it's that understanding that's essential for developing completely new materials for the future. It's not all that bad, but it's certainly sub-optimal.

Re: Elon Musk’s Mission to Mars

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Apologies for being somewhat off-topic, but does anybody know if there are citizenship requirements for working at a place like SpaceX? I have a solid background in materials science and metallurgy from a world-class university, and find what Musk is doing very inspirational. After I finish my PhD, I'd love to be a part of it, but I'm British and I know with some companies in the industry there're citizenship require…

I think the limitation is actually put in place by the US government because rocket technology is basically weapons technology. I may be wrong about that though.

That's what I feared.

Re: Elon Musk’s Mission to Mars

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Lots of folks have a vision of a mission to mars. What counts is the execution.

To be fair to those folks most of them aren't billionaires.

To be fair to Musk, some of them are billionaires (think about folks like George Lucas who have made billions through sci fi movies etc.)

Re: Elon Musk’s Mission to Mars

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair to those folks most of them aren't billionaires.

To be fair to Musk, some of them are billionaires (think about folks like George Lucas who have made billions through sci fi movies etc.)

Extremely true

Re: Elon Musk’s Mission to Mars

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try applying and find out. You have nothing to lose but a little time.

I won't be in a position to apply for another two years, but if I thought there was even a chance of being accepted there're things I could do in the meantime to make myself a much more attractive applicant.

Then ask them that. Really, competent potential hires showing early interest for that reason is the dream of every engineering/R&D HR person. They'll be very happy to tell you what you want to know if you're at all interesting for them as a potential hire. Spontaneous passionate applicants are usually much more interesting to a high tech company than nearly anyone a recruiter can come up with.

Re: Elon Musk’s Mission to Mars

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Apologies for being somewhat off-topic, but does anybody know if there are citizenship requirements for working at a place like SpaceX? I have a solid background in materials science and metallurgy from a world-class university, and find what Musk is doing very inspirational. After I finish my PhD, I'd love to be a part of it, but I'm British and I know with some companies in the industry there're citizenship require…

It's a hard and fast rule. You must either be a US citizen or permanent resident. ITAR is the reason.

Re: Elon Musk’s Mission to Mars

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"It’s like something out of a movie or my old Tintin books. It’s the way space was supposed to be."

Yes! Finally someone gets it!

Motherfucking space! Is aspirational!

We go to space not because it is easy, but because it is hard AND AWESOME.

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