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Re: Traffic from Russia to Cloudflare is 60% down from last year

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Post by esafak »

ekropotin wrote: post #23
tananaev wrote: post #13

Russia has been slowly cracking down on popular communication and media platforms. First they slow down connection to unusable speeds. This happened to YouTube at some point last year. At first they even said that it's something wrong with Google and it's not them. I think the intention is to slowly get people off the platform without completely blocking it. Then eventually they block access completely. Same happened…

Russia seems to be executing CCP’s playbook. They even trying to push everyone to their version of WeChat, which is called Max.

Perhaps they could use an encryption program that uses the sanctioned app as the transport layer. Like how people used to use PGP with email.

Re: Traffic from Russia to Cloudflare is 60% down from last year

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Post by tananaev »

_fat_santa wrote: post #17
tananaev wrote: post #13

Russia has been slowly cracking down on popular communication and media platforms. First they slow down connection to unusable speeds. This happened to YouTube at some point last year. At first they even said that it's something wrong with Google and it's not them. I think the intention is to slowly get people off the platform without completely blocking it. Then eventually they block access completely. Same happened…

I have family in Russia and it's a sad state of affairs. Our ability to communicate with them is slowly degrading to the point where now I am looking into self-hosted communications.

I've been using WeChat. My hope is they won't dare to block Chinese messenger. China is pretty much the only remaining lifeline for Russia.

Re: Traffic from Russia to Cloudflare is 60% down from last year

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Post by ogurechny »

pavlov wrote: post #6
user3939382 wrote: post #4

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"Government censorship of websites is good because it reduces Cloudflare usage." What a take... Only on HN.

Here's another take: The idea that you can only choose between one set of desperate spying and killing fools trying to create a world where they could be totally invincible (with a swarm of lesser demons trying to make a fortune serving them) and another set of desperate spying and killing fools trying to create a world where they could be totally invincible (with a swarm of lesser demons trying to make a fortune serving them) is stupid.

Re: Traffic from Russia to Cloudflare is 60% down from last year

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Post by betaby »

bojan wrote: post #29
tananaev wrote: post #13

Russia has been slowly cracking down on popular communication and media platforms. First they slow down connection to unusable speeds. This happened to YouTube at some point last year. At first they even said that it's something wrong with Google and it's not them. I think the intention is to slowly get people off the platform without completely blocking it. Then eventually they block access completely. Same happened…

That explains why I can't seem to access VKontakte anymore from outside. Not a huge loss as it rightfully suffers the same fate as Facebook, but still.

VK loads just fine from Canada. Rogers and Bell mobile phones to be more specific.

Re: Traffic from Russia to Cloudflare is 60% down from last year

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Post by moralestapia »

tananaev wrote: post #13

Russia has been slowly cracking down on popular communication and media platforms. First they slow down connection to unusable speeds. This happened to YouTube at some point last year. At first they even said that it's something wrong with Google and it's not them. I think the intention is to slowly get people off the platform without completely blocking it. Then eventually they block access completely. Same happened…

What do they use, instead?

It's not like they don't want any videos online.

Re: Traffic from Russia to Cloudflare is 60% down from last year

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Post by orbital-decay »

tokai wrote: post #14
jonwinstanley wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What leads you to think they don’t care?

If you talk or write with Russians, its quite clear that they don't care. A majority of them are not following any kind of news, and the ones that are follow pro government stuff. Even though telegram was banned, the majority of all Russian channels are pro-government.[0] [0] https://cedarus.io/research/what-do-russians-read

I do both in real life, and it's quite clear that what you say is false. Remember that media and online spaces are not a reflection of the reality on the ground. Your own link even discusses one of the reasons for that: dissident media tries to fill the gap avoided by loyal media, of course all that seems similar and manipulative as a result, because they don't write about anything else. Some do understand that, but they operate from abroad - try covering anything mundane about Russia in Latvia, where e.g. Meduza resides, and see how it goes. Naturally people grow tired of the media that feels the same. (Meduza in particular making a lot of stuff up doesn't help). Online spaces are simply suppressed, you can't even give a thumb up without facing 20 years and likely being sent to the meat grinder head-first.

Re: Traffic from Russia to Cloudflare is 60% down from last year

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Post by Modified3019 »

tananaev wrote: post #13

Russia has been slowly cracking down on popular communication and media platforms. First they slow down connection to unusable speeds. This happened to YouTube at some point last year. At first they even said that it's something wrong with Google and it's not them. I think the intention is to slowly get people off the platform without completely blocking it. Then eventually they block access completely. Same happened…

> It's kind of funny because Telegram is used by Russian military to coordinate a lot of things, so they complain a lot about the block.

This plus the starlink cutoff blinded them so badly Ukraine was able to counterattack and retake a bit of area north of Huliaipole, with armored vehicles (which normally attract immediate drone response these days) last I checked operations are still ongoing, so it’ll be a bit before we know the extent of what they were able to do.

Re: Traffic from Russia to Cloudflare is 60% down from last year

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Post by pixl97 »

_fat_santa wrote: post #17
tananaev wrote: post #13

Russia has been slowly cracking down on popular communication and media platforms. First they slow down connection to unusable speeds. This happened to YouTube at some point last year. At first they even said that it's something wrong with Google and it's not them. I think the intention is to slowly get people off the platform without completely blocking it. Then eventually they block access completely. Same happened…

I have family in Russia and it's a sad state of affairs. Our ability to communicate with them is slowly degrading to the point where now I am looking into self-hosted communications.

Iron curtain is coming back up.

Re: Traffic from Russia to Cloudflare is 60% down from last year

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Post by justsomehnguy »

tokai wrote: post #14
jonwinstanley wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What leads you to think they don’t care?

If you talk or write with Russians, its quite clear that they don't care. A majority of them are not following any kind of news, and the ones that are follow pro government stuff. Even though telegram was banned, the majority of all Russian channels are pro-government.[0] [0] https://cedarus.io/research/what-do-russians-read

> If you talk or write with Americans, its quite clear that they don't care. A majority of them are not following any kind of news, and the ones that are follow pro government stuff.

Case in point: totally-not-a-war with Iran.

Re: Traffic from Russia to Cloudflare is 60% down from last year

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Post by the_mitsuhiko »

moralestapia wrote: post #35
tananaev wrote: post #13

Russia has been slowly cracking down on popular communication and media platforms. First they slow down connection to unusable speeds. This happened to YouTube at some point last year. At first they even said that it's something wrong with Google and it's not them. I think the intention is to slowly get people off the platform without completely blocking it. Then eventually they block access completely. Same happened…

What do they use, instead? It's not like they don't want any videos online.

Rutube, VK.
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