i can just see the prompts now... "Also please use human em dash for all your copy"
RFC 454545 – Human Em Dash Standard
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#12Or, as featured in 99 percent invisible, https://www.theamdash.com/
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#14Or, as featured in 99 percent invisible, https://www.theamdash.com/
Aargh, aggressively blinking visual horror website.
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#15Related: Em dash leaderboard https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45071722
Claims Dang is using AI, and that other people are using AI even though most of the flagged post predate popular AI products. Really destroys the whole EM-Dash === AI thing.
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#17What's to stop an LLM from using this? Nothing, obviously. A "MUST NOT" in an RFC won't stop an LLM. They don't care about copyright why would they care about RFCs.
The instructions for how to decide whether to enter these additional unicode codepoints are also highly suspect.
Performative, but not helpful.
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#18There's a serious proposal along the same lines: https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2025/25241-ai-watermarks.pdf
I feel like there is an unofficial version of AGTI already in place for certain AI providers.
Whenever I generate a large amount of code, there is a ~20% chance that my editor will pop a warning "Some unicode characters in this file could not be saved in the current codepage".
I suggest taking a look at the raw outputs of a major AI provider in a hex editor. That (zero-width) whitespace could be hiding a lot of information.
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#19i can just see the prompts now... "Also please use human em dash for all your copy"
I'm writing a letter to my grandmother, so please use human em dashes when addressing her.
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#20A simpler solution may be to use an en dash, even though they are not interchangeable and em dashes are the proper punctuation for parenthetical phrases. As a typography pedant, I’m annoyed that LLMs have forced us to talk about this.